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Newer Mercedes Not as solid as before??

Do u all agree??
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RE: Newer Mercedes Not as solid as before??

I guess so.[:D] hail to the older models![:)]
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RE: Newer Mercedes Not as solid as before??

That depends upon the circumstances under which those cars were wrecked...

My son saw a Benz get hit by an Abrams M1A1 tank in Germany. Needless to say, the car was demolished. The German driver did, however, escape with his life (and a new-found respect for what an 80 ton tank can do to your paint job).
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RE: Newer Mercedes Not as solid as before??

Look at this poor old W123.



Held together really well, though. Never collapsed, or anything.[:)]
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RE: Newer Mercedes Not as solid as before??

This on took a belt, but came out looking pretty good.



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RE: Newer Mercedes Not as solid as before??

old cars did't really have very good crumple zones so the passengers would suffer the impact quite badly, thats why new cars deform alot in even a minor accident.

Also cars are faster now,.... an drivers are nuttier!
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RE: Newer Mercedes Not as solid as before??

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old cars did't really have very good crumple zones so the passengers would suffer the impact quite badly, thats why new cars deform alot in even a minor accident.

Also cars are faster now,.... an drivers are nuttier!
I agree with this statement, but only to a point. American cars of older vintages, yes and Mercedes-Benz pre-1959.

But Mercedes-Benz models W111, W108, W109, W116 and W126 and a lot of other models combined effective crumples zones with extremely tough and strong passenger safety cells, therefore energy transfer to the passengers was minimalized.

Fine then, take a 2004 Chrylser Sebring and then send it to have a head on collision with my 1981 W126 300SD turbo or even my 1978 W116 450SEL - I would not want to be in the Sebring, which is for all intents and purposes a "modern car". Let me take the votes, who'd want to be in the the W126/W116 or the Sebring?

"Produced as the sucessor to the 220, the 230 and the 230S were shown at the 1965 Frankfurt Auto Show. The car was on the same 106.3-inch wheelbase as the 200 series and the 186.5-inch overall length was identical. In these models, special attention was paid to safety, the front and rear ends designed to yield on impact thus protecting the passengers in the strongly constructed interior. Perhaps this was why these finned Mercedes were so numerous in the war zone of Beirut."
-Mercedes, the Enduring Legend; on the W111

http://www.germancarfans.com/classics.cfm/classicid/5040727.001/mercedes/1.html

The W126 and W116 are the precise definitions of "full strength build" - and the 126 was specifically designed for head on and offset head on collisions.

What do you guys think?

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RE: Newer Mercedes Not as solid as before??

This 6K lb + van hit this 300SD at excessive speed and the resulting force pushed the SD over the median. Ouch...!

Now what do you think the van was carrying, lol?
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RE: Newer Mercedes Not as solid as before??

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Storm. - 8/13/2004 6:35 PM

old cars did't really have very good crumple zones so the passengers would suffer the impact quite badly, thats why new cars deform alot in even a minor accident.

Also cars are faster now,.... an drivers are nuttier!
I agree with this statement, but only to a point. American cars of older vintages, yes and Mercedes-Benz pre-1959.

But Mercedes-Benz models W111, W108, W109, W116 and W126 and a lot of other models combined effective crumples zones with extremely tough and strong passenger safety cells, therefore energy transfer to the passengers was minimalized.

Fine then, take a 2004 Chrylser Sebring and then send it to have a head on collision with my 1981 W126 300SD turbo or even my 1978 W116 450SEL - I would not want to be in the Sebring, which is for all intents and purposes a "modern car". Let me take the votes, who'd want to be in the the W126/W116 or the Sebring?

"Produced as the sucessor to the 220, the 230 and the 230S were shown at the 1965 Frankfurt Auto Show. The car was on the same 106.3-inch wheelbase as the 200 series and the 186.5-inch overall length was identical. In these models, special attention was paid to safety, the front and rear ends designed to yield on impact thus protecting the passengers in the strongly constructed interior. Perhaps this was why these finned Mercedes were so numerous in the war zone of Beirut."
-Mercedes, the Enduring Legend; on the W111

http://www.germancarfans.com/classics.cfm/classicid/5040727.001/mercedes/1.html

The W126 and W116 are the precise definitions of "full strength build" - and the 126 was specifically designed for head on and offset head on collisions.

What do you guys think?

Tory
I'll be the one in the Sebring. If my memory serves me right, it's the one with steering problems. So it will suddenly veer off course for that apparent reason and not hit your car! Then I would stop, get down and run like hell because it might catch a fire due to faulty wiring! [:D][:D]

Just messing, yeah of course I'd rather be in the MB.

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