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i think you win the comp for the longest, most useless sig on here


like the output of the alternator? like I care?

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anyway - im not happy with my cl420 as it takes 0.5 seconds longer to start than i'd like.... (being mechanically minded, I'd expect it to start better)

the slightest squeek shows up - its a S (an?) class - so the slightest noise shows.

bet the toyota owner wouldnt complain that the glove box top left corner (UK car) squeeks when going down bad, bumpy road... no he would hear it from the banging of the suspension...
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bet the toyota owner wouldnt complain that the glove box top left corner (UK car) squeeks when going down bad, bumpy road... no he would hear it from the banging of the suspension...
In addition, the Toyota was just specifically built to score well on JD Power's survey. Hmmmm...
That's like building a car for a crash test, instead of real world accidents...

"Toyota scored 207 problems per 100, good enough for sixth place, one notch lower than last year when VDS tracked cars four to five years old. <b>Lexus customer satisfaction boss Mark Templin acknowledged that Toyota and Lexus gear their quality processes specifically to score well on Power's survey.</b>."



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Honestly u can't compare the two. I drive a 95 Toyota Supra with a getrag 6 speed transmission. The car has 83k miles on it. The car makes over 750 horsepower with a stock bottom end and the everything is original on the long block except for cams and springs. How many cars do u know can make that kind of power on a stock block? How many of those are still very streetable?

Then I have a 2001 c320 with every option that the car came with in 01. This car has more electronic features than any car i've seen. Yes some of the options are very nice to have like garage door opener, auto lights, headrest adj... But it also has more room for stuff to fail. The oil fill neck is god horrible design. Mine already had a crack in it. The fog lights got water in them. The rear shade is stuck. It is definitely much easier to work on or find someone to work on a lexus then it is to find someone to work on a benz. And the parts are much less on the lexus since u can cross-reference the parts with toyota.

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i have w124 300e, its been 15 years since it rolled out of the factory and its still running fine...i heard the w124 was one of the last 'quality' merc's, before mercedes introduced some cost reduction in production, am i right?

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the last quality Mercedes was the W140 S-Class which came out in 1991

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What about the German Mercedes taxis that have close to a million miles? You can't compare a 10 year old Mercedes with mostly city miles to a 10 year old Toyota with only highway miles. You have to compare two cars with the same type of driving and the same type of maintenance. So, basically, all those surveys and such are not exact science. I wouldn't let JD Power or Consumer Reports influence me too much. Also, a Honda made in Japan has better reliability than a Honda made in Mexico.

Simply stated, to rate reliability of cars is impossible.

I think reliability comes in two. There's engine reliability and then there's structural reliability. Mercedes cars are still solid after decades, whereas in a Toyota doors will creak, windows will rattle, etc.

Mercedes cars were more reliable back then when they were mostly mechanical based. These days, with the use of electronics, a simple Toyota can be more reliable.

I will know longer trust Consumer Reports. They say the new S-Class has "poor" reliability. My 2002 S430 has 17,000 miles of both very hard city and highway driving and nothing has gone wrong. How can Consumer Reports sum up a car's reliability with only a few months of testing it?

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i dont care about reliability(too much), its the nature of the beast. mercedes = class, i loves to drives my classy car.

and chuck v's sig is such an eyesore it makes me feel like i wanna file a formal complaint

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Alas, I've formally complained many times. Although Chuck V and you share a predilection for butchering the English language, his sense of humour is much different from the one you do not have.

Each time I have complained, the signature got longer. I quit complaining!

Maybe if you used reverse psy. and praised his signature, he would make it shorter. Anyway, Chuck would be a very good character to work in your directorial debut after you attend t.u. and graduate from 6th street.

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Sadly, I like Chuck's sig. I chuckle everytime I see it.
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i have always found it somewhat amusing. sadly because i used to drive my nieghbor's yugo when i was 13/14. he was a doctor, had 2 benzes and a yugo that he drove to work.he was from yugo (maybe a patriotic thing). but it had bosch fuel injection and made about 90hp. that car was a blast and i kinda wanted it but one day it quite literally fell apart in his driveway. we used to do donuts in the garage. hehehe... he had a 2 car garage and fit all 3 vehicles in there. but, the AMG model and all the mods is just a crack-up. it would almost be worth the 5 grand to build a yugo like that.

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