I just saw on USA Today that the feds are investigating MB for possible emission tampering. I am hoping that this will go nowhere. However that said, a lot of VW owners are looking at having their vehicles bought back for the same thing. I seem to remember that the company that supplied the ECU had code in the computer to turn off emission controls when the car isn't being tested for emissions. I wonder if the ECU in M-B/BMW might also have the same code?
I saw this story and the headline seemed a bit dramatic. Once I read a couple of articles it was clear that the Feds had only asked for some data and that Daimler had provided it. Nothing more is known for sure at this time. We will have to wait and see.
The EU has already ruled out "cheater" ECU programing like what VW/Audi did. The big mystery is why are the MBs, BMWs, and a couple of Asian diesel models off the mark with the emissions?
I think if they have the urea systems, they shouldn't have too much trouble getting them to meet emissions. At least nothing so bad it's in the apocalyptic "we gotta buy back all the cars" category. The big deal with VW was that no one could figure out how they were meeting them without the urea injection, and in fact, they were not.
Think VW can re-sell all those cars in 3rd world countries with lower standards?
VW will probably sell them, but they are going to have to dole out some deep discounts. A tech I know at a dealership that has a couple of reprogrammed ones for testing says they are now very lethargic compared to the "cheater" ECU programming.
I just don't get it. The urea systems are not that expensive (heck even Chevy Cruze has one) and don't really impact performance. You fill them like every 10,000 miles and most dealers will fill them for free during the warranty period. What the heck was VW thinking?
On my nextdooor site owners of VW figured out that they can skip coming $900 service and maybe with oil change will get the car bought back.
Coming back to original issue.
How requesting documents - automatically becomes investigation?
And what happens to "control" ?
This is crazy. I'd always heard that foreign diesel makers were avoiding the US auto market because our diesel fuel sucked rocks and was 'impossible' meet emissions with; however, reading some of these articles it sounds like many are not even meeting the European emissions standards.
The pollution criteria has been always political issue. You can play with them saying that sot is more poisonous than killer gasses coming from gasoline engine.
Anyway, the subject is always badly misrepresented in US news and I always take them with grain of salt.
General knowledge is that European pollution standards are much more demanding that US standards. Some countries charge registration taxes per pollution that car sellers have to disclosure.
Bottom line, I heard that US hybrids would fail European smog controls and never be allowed to drive there. Maybe a myth, maybe the fact, but with all that propaganda would take quite some research to figure it out.
If some car manufacturer "meets the standards" by cheating, it just gives governments more incentive to double down on (or even tighten) the standards. It hurts everyone. They can point to a car and say "see, our standards are achievable" even though the car is really failing. I know Honda has said they won't sell diesels here because of the emissions. They make a diesel Jazz (Jazz is world version of N American Honda Fit) but they won't sell it here because it doesn't meet 50 state emissions and they decided not even to try. And that's Honda who is often a trend setter for emissions.
Looks like you assumed the linked article talks about diesels.
Growing in communism, I learn to look for the facts and read between the lines.
So beside the title where does it say the recall is for diesels only?
They say Porsche is involved in the recall as well. How many diesel models Porsche has?
I think the Daily Wipe linked here is not worth our breath.
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