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I just saw on USA Today that the feds are investigating MB for possible emission tampering. I am hoping that this will go nowhere. However that said, a lot of VW owners are looking at having their vehicles bought back for the same thing. I seem to remember that the company that supplied the ECU had code in the computer to turn off emission controls when the car isn't being tested for emissions. I wonder if the ECU in M-B/BMW might also have the same code?
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I just saw on USA Today that the feds are investigating MB for possible emission tampering. I am hoping that this will go nowhere. However that said, a lot of VW owners are looking at having their vehicles bought back for the same thing. I seem to remember that the company that supplied the ECU had code in the computer to turn off emission controls when the car isn't being tested for emissions. I wonder if the ECU in M-B/BMW might also have the same code?
I saw this story and the headline seemed a bit dramatic. Once I read a couple of articles it was clear that the Feds had only asked for some data and that Daimler had provided it. Nothing more is known for sure at this time. We will have to wait and see.
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The EU has already ruled out "cheater" ECU programing like what VW/Audi did. The big mystery is why are the MBs, BMWs, and a couple of Asian diesel models off the mark with the emissions?
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I think if they have the urea systems, they shouldn't have too much trouble getting them to meet emissions. At least nothing so bad it's in the apocalyptic "we gotta buy back all the cars" category. The big deal with VW was that no one could figure out how they were meeting them without the urea injection, and in fact, they were not.

Think VW can re-sell all those cars in 3rd world countries with lower standards?
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VW will probably sell them, but they are going to have to dole out some deep discounts. A tech I know at a dealership that has a couple of reprogrammed ones for testing says they are now very lethargic compared to the "cheater" ECU programming.
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I just don't get it. The urea systems are not that expensive (heck even Chevy Cruze has one) and don't really impact performance. You fill them like every 10,000 miles and most dealers will fill them for free during the warranty period. What the heck was VW thinking?
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They were not thinking. It was a very short sighted move and now they are paying the piper for that.
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On my nextdooor site owners of VW figured out that they can skip coming $900 service and maybe with oil change will get the car bought back.
Coming back to original issue.
How requesting documents - automatically becomes investigation?
And what happens to "control" ?

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This is crazy. I'd always heard that foreign diesel makers were avoiding the US auto market because our diesel fuel sucked rocks and was 'impossible' meet emissions with; however, reading some of these articles it sounds like many are not even meeting the European emissions standards.
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