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The pollution criteria has been always political issue. You can play with them saying that sot is more poisonous than killer gasses coming from gasoline engine.
Anyway, the subject is always badly misrepresented in US news and I always take them with grain of salt.
General knowledge is that European pollution standards are much more demanding that US standards. Some countries charge registration taxes per pollution that car sellers have to disclosure.
Bottom line, I heard that US hybrids would fail European smog controls and never be allowed to drive there. Maybe a myth, maybe the fact, but with all that propaganda would take quite some research to figure it out.

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Just noticed that.
I went down the page and click on solar airplane picture.
That open me page advising me to BUY SOLAR PANELS.
Is that what Noodles is promoting here?
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The pollution criteria has been always political issue. You can play with them saying that sot is more poisonous than killer gasses coming from gasoline engine.
Anyway, the subject is always badly misrepresented in US news and I always take them with grain of salt.
General knowledge is that European pollution standards are much more demanding that US standards. Some countries charge registration taxes per pollution that car sellers have to disclosure.
Bottom line, I heard that US hybrids would fail European smog controls and never be allowed to drive there. Maybe a myth, maybe the fact, but with all that propaganda would take quite some research to figure it out.
If some car manufacturer "meets the standards" by cheating, it just gives governments more incentive to double down on (or even tighten) the standards. It hurts everyone. They can point to a car and say "see, our standards are achievable" even though the car is really failing. I know Honda has said they won't sell diesels here because of the emissions. They make a diesel Jazz (Jazz is world version of N American Honda Fit) but they won't sell it here because it doesn't meet 50 state emissions and they decided not even to try. And that's Honda who is often a trend setter for emissions.
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Looks like you assumed the linked article talks about diesels.
Growing in communism, I learn to look for the facts and read between the lines.
So beside the title where does it say the recall is for diesels only?
They say Porsche is involved in the recall as well. How many diesel models Porsche has?
I think the Daily Wipe linked here is not worth our breath.


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Looks like you assumed the linked article talks about diesels.
Growing in communism, I learn to look for the facts and read between the lines.
So beside the title where does it say the recall is for diesels only?
They say Porsche is involved in the recall as well. How many diesel models Porsche has?
I think the Daily Wipe linked here is not worth our breath.
I Googled a couple additional stories and found this one:


German carmakers recall 630,000 diesel vehicles in Europe
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