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wheel offset 44 and 46 on w211

Does anyone have any input here?

Will this work with spacers and longer bolts?

Thanks in advance.
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It should, but good quality spacers plus custom bolts will add about $200 to the project, that will sacrifice safety.
Is it worth it?

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What always amazes me on this forum that no one every gives a definite answer.

So if I read between the lines, you say it will work for an additional cost of spacers and bolts (obviously), but you think it will compromise safety?

WHY? Everything I read on line never states that it compromises safety.

Thing is, I can not find a nice set of OEM wheels for thus car. Thought I had a set of E55 AMG'S yesterday and after close inspection two of them were replicas and somewhat junk.
I also do not want to pay dealer prices. The set of S class AMG'S that I have are Immaculate and would look killer on the car.
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^^^What always amazes me is that someone posts a question about a specific car in the general forum, asks for "any input," and then complains that they don't get a definite answer.

Of course, the fact that only one factor is provided kind of leaves us in the dark, too. To properly answer your question wheel width must be known. ET44 on an 8" wheel is quite a different question than ET44 on a 10" wheel.

But the short answer is that if you use quality spacers and bolts, you won't really be compromising safety for ordinary use. Just don't buy "best kwality" spacers on ebay...once you find out how thick you need. And be careful that you get the exact length bolts you need, since you don't want them pulling out threads or damaging the parking brakes.

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My apologies, point well taken.

The wheels are AMG, PART NUMBERS:

A2204011902
A2204010802

FRONT: 18X8.5, 44 OFFSET
REAR: 18X9.5, 46 OFFSET

I would like to mount the following tire sizes:

245/40R18 front
265/35R18 rear

Maybe I can get some better info/confirmation on this now???!!!

- Any suggestions for good spacer brand?
- I was going to measure how far the bolts stick out of the backside on my stock 16" inch rims and have exactly the same distance from the back end of the spacer for new bolts.
This should ensure that there will be no additional bolt length affecting the parking brake, ........ AGREE????

Thanks in advance and once again, SORRY.
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My apologies, point well taken.

The wheels are AMG, PART NUMBERS:

A2204011902
A2204010802

FRONT: 18X8.5, 44 OFFSET
REAR: 18X9.5, 46 OFFSET

I would like to mount the following tire sizes:

245/40R18 front
265/35R18 rear

Maybe I can get some better info/confirmation on this now???!!!

- Any suggestions for good spacer brand?
- I was going to measure how far the bolts stick out of the backside on my stock 16" inch rims and have exactly the same distance from the back end of the spacer for new bolts.
This should ensure that there will be no additional bolt length affecting the parking brake, ........ AGREE????

Thanks in advance and once again, SORRY.
Thanks for the additional info.

In reverse order, I think you can fit 275/35-18 in the back and that is nearly perfect for OD to match the front (and stock). The 245/40-18 is the nominal size for your car up front.

In the front you should be good with a 10mm spacer. In the rear I would try for a 20mm as otherwise you're shoving all of the extra tire out and may end up rolling fenders (you might have to do that anyway.

So here is what I'd suggest. Buy the pair of 10mm spacers for the front, then mount both of them on one rear wheel and do a test fit. Then you'll know if 20 is enough. You don't need to drive the car so you only need to buy like 2 bolts of the correct extended length to hold it on securely enough to drop it and bounce it to check for clearance. Be sure to look hard at inner clearance, you may be able to get away with a 15mm spacer (and generally speaking the smaller the better when it comes to spacers.

And yes, your method to calculate your bolt length is correct.

Brands...considering the size of these and the real need for solid quality, I'd pick the H&R. They are pretty expensive, but you know they will fit properly and will be ideally balanced, which is important for this amount of unsprung, rotating mass. You're likely looking at $300, perhaps a bit more, by the time you have spacers and bolts, so it may instead be worth considering selling your S class wheels and buying some from a W211. $300 is a lot of money, so even if you had to buy some that needed refinishing you might end up ahead...and not have to worry about a spacer falling off when you're changing the tire on a cold, rainy night. Murphy does like to follow people around, you know.

Now...if you don't want to go through all of this headache but you want to use your wheels, you can also load up a front and rear and go to a good tire and wheel shop, preferably one that is performance-oriented. Let them advise you on what to do and what will work, because then it's all on them to get it right (and make it right if they are wrong).

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Thanks very much for the VERY detailed response, greatly appreciated.

I guess I am only unclear about your statement in regards to the rear tire size to be 275 rather than 265? Why, can you explain?

What do you mean by OD? What about the nominal size in the front?

Sorry, I did not quite get this.

A good friend of mine is the manager of a local Firestone store and I was going to inquire with him as well.

Thanks a bunch.
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Thanks very much for the VERY detailed response, greatly appreciated.

I guess I am only unclear about your statement in regards to the rear tire size to be 275 rather than 265? Why, can you explain?

What do you mean by OD? What about the nominal size in the front?

Sorry, I did not quite get this.

A good friend of mine is the manager of a local Firestone store and I was going to inquire with him as well.

Thanks a bunch.
OD = Overall/Outside Diameter.

The key is to try and keep the OD the same front and rear. The OD for the 265/35 is .4" smaller than the OD for the 245/40. That should be okay (it's the stock size for the W211/E55 and is within tolerances so it won't upset the car's systems), but it's generally better to make them match if you can. Ultimately 275 is a closer match. It's the way I would go, even if I had to roll the rear fenders, though you certainly don't have to.

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Thanks again, you seem to have all the answers. :-)

Not really up for rolling fenders, this will also be another additional cost.

I think I will stick with the original plan of 265/35 as the W211 E55 has.

Thanks.
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diameter of rolling rubber is not telling everything as rubber sag and is subject to centrifugal force.
That is why manufacturers list rpm for each tire and this is what you should use matching staggered wheels
Good quality spacers will have flange that is perfectly matching the hub flange.
I heard it more than once that somebody put thin spacer without flange and wheels not mounted on the center of the hub did give nice vibration.


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