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Towing a race car with a W210 Wagon

Hi everyone I'm hoping to get around buying an SUV and tow my 2300lb race car and lightweight aluminum trailer with a nice wagon. I haven't bought the car yet. I've searched around and it doesn't seem like many people are doing this but I'm convinced it's possible. I know that the US has a tendency for overkill in tow vehicles.

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Is there something about a E55 or E63 that prohibits installation of a hitch?

Should I buy the largest non AMG variant (E500) possible for the added power?

I was thinking also 2wd for ease of service. Thoughts on 2 versus AWD for general reliability, not related to towing.

Am I crazy?

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Those are our European friends enjoying cars to their full capacity.
In US government is restricting us, so you are in dark teritory.
You can import 5000 lb hitch from Europe and Westfalia makes very nice hidden sets, but you might run into troubles with local law.
If you consider that, start with calling DMV

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talking about power, our E320 has about the same power the F450 has.
I was using F450 for hauling 2 Bobcats at the time, one on the flatbed, other on the trailer. About 30,000 lb for 240 HP

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Hmmm....


I'm not sure what you mean by that.

As to your question, yes, E320's are more than capable of doing what you're describing...though you do need to exercise a bit more caution and brake a lot earlier because of the added weight.

You do need to import euro-made tow hitches and tow bows that are designed with W210 in mind, as it'll be a bolt on affair.

As far as the DMV/cop pulling you aside issue, I have yet to see any cops pulling people in sedans for towing humongous loads on the trailers... I once saw a 97 98 or 99 Honda Accord wagon pull a F150 on the dinky little u-haul trailer (the kind that lifts the front two wheel) on the 405 freeway and must've passed a dozen cop cars....nothing.

Though yes, kajtek has the right idea, call your local DMV or ask a local cop before committing to any course of action.
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unitized cars are not good for towing.Thats why most people use trucks because they have a frame.I would not exceed 2,000 pounds

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unitized cars are not good for towing.Thats why most people use trucks because they have a frame.I would not exceed 2,000 pounds
This is what US pickup manufacturers want you to believe and it has nothing to do with frame.
By the law of physics - classic US made pickups with short wheelbase, long rear overhang and soft rear suspension are the lousiest tow vehicles you can build.
When you hook up heavier trailer, the rear will sag up to a foot on some models, that is why you need weight distribution bars, or for real safety you need 5th wheel trailer that puts the weight between the axles.
It takes F550 to have long wheelbase and short overhang to qualify it for good trailer hauler.
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I frequently tow between 3000-4000 pounds with my w123 wagon all the time and I only have 125hp. A W210 will tow just fine but I do highly recommend trailer brakes for anything over 1500lbs which is also what MB recommends.
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Kajtek1- that is exactly what I was talking about. Thank you. I've been wanting to get experienced answers like this for a long time. I think this seals the deal for me on what car I'm getting. I've towed with a short wheelbase Montero for a while which was very unstable under both pulling and braking. I'd imagine that a car of this size would be a lot better. I love the idea of having the utility of a ML, G or a Land Cruiser but I don't think it's practical or enjoyable to drive a truck every day.

I don't expect to have any trouble from the local DMV. My buddy has a Jag R type sedan that he's been towing with for years and not a word from the authorities.


I once towed a Land Rover D90 with my E30 318i. Not recommended but hilarious.

Any leads on the hitch setup? Would that be a euro-dealer purchase or from another retailer?

2wd or AWD?

Thanks a lot guys!
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We did have ML as daily driver for 13 years. But gas was below $1 most of them
We get rid of ML when I sold the boat. Fact is that sedans/wagons offer way better comfort.
Beware that even the towing laws have minimal law enforcement (have you seen those 6-cars haulers behind pickups? ) but those cars in US have different tow ratings, meaning you can get a ticket.
I've been towing with our W210 sedan and lately scaled utility trailer at 1400 lb.
For 5000 lb hitches you have to shop abroad.
Depends what language you are familiar with, you can go on European ebays.
Here is Polish site listing Westfalia's what is top of the line.
$1=3 zl and kombi=wagon
W210 HAK westfalia - Allegro.pl - Wi?cej ni? aukcje. Najlepsze oferty na najwi?kszej platformie handlowej.


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Joshjeeper I love the wagon. Putting it to good use!
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