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Spacer help please!!!!

Hello, i am new to this site so i know my question has most likely been asked a lot but ill try asking in hopes of getting friendly advise.

i have a 1992 190E 2.3 with stock 15" wheels, i just found out my offset is 49. i recently bought a set of 2006 OME e350 wheels, i through them on not knowing anything, they fit and looked great, when i tried moving the car the rear wheels hardly moved and made a huge noise, i just found out i need spacers, i was just wondering if anyone could help me on what size spacers i need? the rims are 16x8 and i have 205/55/16R wheel on them, thank you
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What you don't know is even scarier than what you do.

First, it's entirely likely that you have the wrong lug bolts and have ruined your parking brakes. That would account for the noise as well. When calipers hit, that is almost always all four wheels. Thus, it seems unlikely you actually need spacers.

The other aspect of that is that the lug bolts for your car are 12Mx1.5, whereas the ball seats in the new wheels are R14, so you need custom lug bolts in the proper size.

Pull a rear wheel, then drop whatever lug bolt you're presently using into it. If it extends more than 3/4", it's too long. And, of course, it's the wrong ball seat.

Contact otisincla.com, they have custom lug bolts for you in various lengths. You'll probably have to figure it out, but I'm betting R14x12Mx1.5x26mm will probably work.

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so i don't need spacers? ive read that when installing newer wheels on earlier cars , the offset is different thus needing spacers? so my entire problem is the lug bolts?
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so i don't need spacers? ive read that when installing newer wheels on earlier cars , the offset is different thus needing spacers? so my entire problem is the lug bolts?
From the cryptic manner of your post, that is my best guess.

Spacers are not always needed, it all depends on the width and offset of the new wheels. The ONLY reason you would need spacers would be to clear the calipers or suspension parts. Since you only had a noise on the rear, it's more likely that your wheels cleared, but the lug bolts didn't.

When I pulled the rear wheel off, I'd also pop off the caliper and pull the rotor. Then you'll find out what damage you did to the parking brake mechanism, and that should be your FIRST priority right now. Get the thing back to stock and get it working right, then you can worry about mounting the new wheels. Seriously. If you did not get custom lug bolts when you mounted those wheels, you do NOT have them mounted properly because the ball seat does not match. It's a critical safety issue.

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Thank you I really appreciate all the help. Actually as soon as I heard the noise I stopped the car, and put my stocks back on. Once I put my stocks back on I moved if a little (it didn't occur to pop off the caliper), but everything sounds and looks normal beilive it or not
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I recently went looking for a set of 12x1.5 bolts with R14 ball seats to swap some AMG wheels from a car with 14x1.5 lugs to one of my cars with 12x1.5 lugs. I had a tough time finding a set of 12mm bolts with R14 seats. I think one main supplier has run low on the shorter length versions (approx 25mm) so they are cutting shorter the 39mm ones they have in stock still and offering them for sale with price offset to reflect the extra machining cost. These are available on Amazon.com and elsewhere for over $100 per set of 20.

However, in my searching I found this source:
https://www533.ssldomain.com/concept...3174.21.173.32

I just ordered a set of (20) 12x1.5 27mm long R14 Ball Seat bolts in Neon Chrome finish for $72.00 + $10 shipping. They are also available in 40mm and 50mm lengths, and in Black or Blue Neon finishes. I believe all are same price/set.

Just FYI. It might be helpful to someone.
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