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post #11 of 25 (permalink) Old 06-29-2013, 10:10 AM
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Well, you can always ask why they're selling it uncertified.

Kajtek and I are participants in that long thread he's referring to. The original poster there is looking for something different form you, however: he needs a car that won't need much in the way of repairs, and doesn't do his own work. That makes the cars scarcer and more expensive.

As a Mercedes mechanic, you're in a much better position both to evaluate the cars and to perform needed repairs. The rap against the post-facelift (2000-2002) W210s is that, by now, they tend to need work, especially in your price range. You should be able to find one that you can afford and yet don't have problems you can't fix.

Go drive one before you pull the trigger. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
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I see you are a 4matic owner. I have been shying away from them because of the extra complexity. Should I?
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That depends on where you are. If you live in snow country, then I'd say that the extra complexity is worth it to give you the extra traction in bad weather. Then again, I'm biased: I'm convinced my 4Matic saved my ass in the sleet one morning in April. I'm also from Houston originally, and will not consider owning a vehicle in Minnesota without 4WD.

Note that that goes for the W210 4Matic. That system is much, much simpler than the W124 version, and the W124 4Matic system has a reputation for unreliability.

There are some jobs on the 4Matic front end that the drivetrain makes more complex, but that's the kind of tradeoff you have to make.

If you live in Houston, on the other hand, I wouldn't mess with it.

Edit: I read back. You're in Toronto. I'd get the 4Matic, unless you're experienced and comfortable with driving RWD in the snow.

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I have been driving on snow and ice for 40 years and almost never wanted 4 wheel drive. Front wheel drive and radial tires are so far ahead of a rear drive car or pickup with bias ply tires. Once or twice I bought 4 wheel drive trucks because they were a good deal but didn't like the way they drove and didn't like the lousy mileage or expensive repairs.

In other words I would not pay extra for a 4matic Mercedes. I am wondering if I am being too hasty in writing them off entirely or should I consider one at the right price?
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Post I think you'd fit!

I have a 2003 C240. Up until about a year and a half ago, I also had a husband (until he decided in his infinite wisdom that he didn't want to be married to me anymore......but that's a totally different story). He was just about EXACTLY your height and weight and fit very comfortably in my car both as a driver and as a passenger. Don't discount the C-class as an option for you, I think you would probably find it roomier than you imagine. Also, the price point for one is going to be similar to what you want to pay. I just looked up the KBB figures for mine and $6,500 is about it for high value even in excellent condition. Good luck with your search! Sorry.....mine's not for sale.
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I have been driving on snow and ice for 40 years and almost never wanted 4 wheel drive. Front wheel drive and radial tires are so far ahead of a rear drive car or pickup with bias ply tires. Once or twice I bought 4 wheel drive trucks because they were a good deal but didn't like the way they drove and didn't like the lousy mileage or expensive repairs.
Remember that Mercedes come in either RWD or 4Matic. No FWD here.

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In other words I would not pay extra for a 4matic Mercedes. I am wondering if I am being too hasty in writing them off entirely or should I consider one at the right price?
I'd say don't strike them off the list. Again, it depends on what condition it's in and what faults there are. There's at least one place where 4Matic beats the RWD version: the front spring perches on the W210 (at least pre-facelift) tend to rust under the mastic coating that's supposed to stop that. I've seen comments that the 4Matic version doesn't have that problem; I'm not entirely sure it's true, but the spring perches on the 4Matic are much higher than on the RWD, which to me would lower the incidence of problems at a minimum.
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Front wheel drive is on the way.
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Right now the favorite is a 1998 E320 4matic with 219,000k for $1950. Sentimental favorite, a 1987 420 with 160,000K for $1500, both terrific bargains if they are as good as they look in the photos.

C class getting a second look thanks to Germanengineeringlover.

Due to the holiday weekend it won't be possible to go and see any of them until Tuesday at the earliest.
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Agreed...but not in the OP's price class.
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