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Why no stick shift?!

I'm sure this has been asked before, but why doesn't MB make stick cars anymore?

I have owned my clk350 for a couple of years and am still in love with it. It has nav, xenon, keyless go, etc. It's all the options that make it even more fun. I will probably never drive a car without keyless go. It makes a world of difference in convenience.

Does anyone have a stick MB? Is the AMG black series stick? If I could get a manual MB I'd be set. Automatic is not fun.

Opinions welcome.

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As far as I know all automatics of last decade allow for manual shifting.
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>>why doesn't MB make stick cars anymore?
My wild thought.
MB might have had hindsight for the future. With stick shift, driver can't hold the cellphone. But now talking on cellphone and/or using cellphone in car are/is being outlawed, maybe MB will make stick shift again. Just wait and see.
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I'm sure this has been asked before, but why doesn't MB make stick cars anymore?
I guess you are asking "why does MBUSA not sell manual transmission cars for the US market"? I don't want to calculate the number of models with a stick but there might be more with a stick than without (taking into account all MB models).
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I've had lots of stick shift Mercedes over the years, 111, 124, 129, etc. and have always done well selling them by advertising broadly and being patient. But they were always older used cars. They were good cars with bulletproof transmissions. I think there's a segment of the used car market that values practicality and likes sticks, and enjoys driving them. But I accept that Mercedes can't really sell them as new cars in the U.S. They've decided they're after the fat cat market and have completely abandoned the market for practical, pragmatic people - sadly, because that's what they used to be known for.

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There is not much market for manuals in US.
I drive Ford Superduty truck as well and know that for each 1 sold with manual they sell 10 automatics. The automatics on those are pretty problematic and trucks usually go via 2 or 4 of them through the life. Still even truck drivers prefer convenience of automatics.
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>>>>why doesn't MB make stick cars anymore?

My second thought/guess.
MB thought that all US cities were like the hilly San Francisco. The clutch would wear out during warranty period so they didn't make stick cars for economics reason.
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While I understand that its impractical and would never happen... I would like to see all new drivers be required to learn on a stick. Even if they migrate to an automatic later, it would be reassuring to know that all these new drivers have gotten a real feeling for how an engine and transmission do what they do.
Just think about that "aha!" moment you had the first time you engaged a clutch under power. (sucessfully :-)

My gut tells me that people driving a stick are more aware of there overall "situation"... you just have to think a little more, regardless of how 2nd nature it becomes.
Besides being more fun, manual transmission is safer IMO. To each his own.

I just bought a 09 B200T 6speed.... cant imagine suffering the boredom of the optional CVT... and to think you have to pay for it too!
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It's not so much what they "make" as it is what they choose to import into USA.

Every drivetrain difference means yet another very expensive EPA certification. We get no diesel station wagons simply because a station wagon requires different rear axle ratio.

And, if you look at German data, you'll find no manual transmissions in anything with a V8 and I think the only "stick" behind a 350 V6 is in the SLK.

And, there has NEVER EVER been a manual transmission AMG ... anywhere. Don't know about B-class and A-class, of course.

Mercedes is not a "boy racer" company.

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My third thought/guess.
It's the trend. Even Las Vegas slot machines got no sticks now, only buttons to push.
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