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The whole package, hardware+software, was bought from dhgate.com. Off topic, make sure a Chinese seller understands exactly what you want and for how much. Product descriptions, prices, deadlines do not necessarily materialize. It was adventurous, but I managed to buy it and I get to use it for free, from time to time.

Precisely because it's a replica, I prefer to have a backup, in case the new program fails. I looked around in the menus, but couldn't find anything similar, only extraction of some parameters. Will look deeper.

Off topic again, it's mechanically reliable hardware (did not open it up), a great software but a very slow copy, runs off an external drive, in a virtual Windows XP. The instructions DAS gives are nicely put together, with symptom checking, step by step guides for what to check/fix, good photos etc. I did not try everything installed on the drive (60GB?, which is a little OS and a lot of DAS). It has an icon called DAS and that's what I used. It's interesting to hear a transmission adaptation, or to start the car from the laptop (of course I tried these).
This shop is obviously cheating. Like the product description says "2.With a 7 meter RS232-RS485 cable,provide more convenience to garage when diagnose." The cable has no RS232 to RS485 converter (have a look at the box in the cable, it is empty).

Which laptop are you using? Does it have a USB2.0 interface? Difficult to interpret how slow your SW actually is but if you run it on a laptop that only has a USB1.1 interface, it will definitely be very slow. You could purchase a USB2.0 PCMCIA adapter to make it faster. Of course an old laptop does not run virtual machine very fast anyway.
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Yes it runs from a virtual machine VMWare with WinXP, like basically all the China-Clones WITH Software bundled.
The Virtual Machines are slow as long as your Laptop Hardware doesn't support Hardware Virtualization.
Thats why i bought a IBM/Lenovo T61 laptop with Core2Duo T7300 instead of the recommend old IBM Thinkpad T30.

The Super MB Star (Top Version) i ordered, comes with a 120GB SATA external drive, The Software is unlocked in Developer/Engineer Mode, so you can code things offline (SCN). It is the most "complete" package listed from all SDS Copies i could find.

I would be a bit worried with your clone, it looks the cables are rather "thin", especially the Serial one to the multiplexer. Also are the cables fused so you won't have to worry about frying your ECU?

There is a german company which offers Geniuine SDS repairs. They had listed examples of bad/non long-lasting C3 copies, which also had such rather thin cables. Those were according to them the major reasons for fried Multiplexers/ECUs, besides too thin lines on the (too thin layered) PCBs.

Do you have a newer car, like W212 or W221, or W204 with which you can test your Version? There was said that the bad quality ones can't suffcient enough keep the connections stable to those newer cars from MB (maybe because of higher data throughput?).

Anyway, if it works for your car without problems its great.
An IBM T30 with a 2GH+ CPU and 1 to 2 GB of RAM isn't bad actually as long as you don't try to run a virtual machine on it. The T30 is often recommended because sellers have hard drives with native XP installed.

I doubt one can find a shop that sells SW without Xentry, that is support for later cars (212 etc, 221 is diagnosed via DAS and 204 can be done via both). SW is hardly a factor when one buys a tool and SW can be managed afterwards (not all purchase SW at all with the tool).

Sounds like you yourself have ordered a high quality clone but like you say, the one from the link in the previous post is not one of the high quality tools. The most obvious indication is the mux itself, have a look at the side of the mux with the green power on LED and compare it with yours once you get the tool. The cheap tools actually most often work pretty much like the more expensive ones, as long as they work. This is the problem, they tend to fail often.

Off-line SCN coding can be activated to any unit. Off-line programming too. The sellers tend to forget to say off-line SCN coding capability does not help much because these days you cannot order the off-line code any more.
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This shop is obviously cheating. Like the product description says "2.With a 7 meter RS232-RS485 cable,provide more convenience to garage when diagnose." The cable has no RS232 to RS485 converter (have a look at the box in the cable, it is empty).

Which laptop are you using? Does it have a USB2.0 interface? Difficult to interpret how slow your SW actually is but if you run it on a laptop that only has a USB1.1 interface, it will definitely be very slow. You could purchase a USB2.0 PCMCIA adapter to make it faster. Of course an old laptop does not run virtual machine very fast anyway.
I use an x40 Thinkpad with docking station, which has a serial port. I guess it's slow because the 1.2 GHz single core first generation Centrino CPU, but mostly because of the slow external hard drive - the LED is on most of the time. It has USB 2.0 and works fine.

I could use an x300 Thinkpad, which is faster, but does not have a serial port and, as far as I have read, the multiplexer does not work well with USB to serial adapters.

The serial cable is obviously not seven meters long, but it works (knock on wood). I don't know about the RS232-485 adapter, it was not needed (yet).
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An IBM T30 with a 2GH+ CPU and 1 to 2 GB of RAM isn't bad actually as long as you don't try to run a virtual machine on it. The T30 is often recommended because sellers have hard drives with native XP installed.

I doubt one can find a shop that sells SW without Xentry, that is support for later cars (212 etc, 221 is diagnosed via DAS and 204 can be done via both). SW is hardly a factor when one buys a tool and SW can be managed afterwards (not all purchase SW at all with the tool).

Sounds like you yourself have ordered a high quality clone but like you say, the one from the link in the previous post is not one of the high quality tools. The most obvious indication is the mux itself, have a look at the side of the mux with the green power on LED and compare it with yours once you get the tool. The cheap tools actually most often work pretty much like the more expensive ones, as long as they work. This is the problem, they tend to fail often.

Off-line SCN coding can be activated to any unit. Off-line programming too. The sellers tend to forget to say off-line SCN coding capability does not help much because these days you cannot order the off-line code any more.
The C3 I'm using does have a green LED on the side. I'm not sure what it should look like.

I hope the multiplexer will work for some time.
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The C3 I'm using does have a green LED on the side. I'm not sure what it should look like.

I hope the multiplexer will work for some time.
Previously I wrote: "have a look at the side of the mux with the green power on LED...". The point is not the green led but the detail missing next to the green LED.

Of course I also hope your mux lives long, some do, but many don't.
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I received mine and it works Perfect on all my cars!
Wow amazing tool... Free in Dev Mode, you need NO SCN codes for coding, etc.

Even Diagnosed a friends brand-new W221 with it - flawlessly.

Only the cables are very stiff (due to their thickness), which is sometimes anyoing when you sit in the car for live-data during drives.

Still a few issues - how can i change SDFinder with these wiring diagrams to german? Its currently set-up to english.
I already changed the HHTWIN to German by editing the hhtwin.ini
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