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Please don't shout (USING UPPERCASE) - and your post is garbage...

Worn bushings do not prevent the start relay operating....
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I CAN ALMOST PROMISE THE SHIFTER BUSHINGS ARE BAD ON THIS CAR AND ITS NOT SHIFTING ALL THE WAY INTO PARK OR NEUTRAL. ITS A VERY VERY COMMON PROBLEM, AND YES THEY COULD. IF THE BUSHINGS ARE WORN AND THE PRNDL SWITCH ON THE SIDE OF THE TRANS IS IN R OR ANYTHING BUT P OR N IT WILL CASUE A NO START PROBLEM. THE PCM WONT ALLOW THE STARTER TO FIRE IF IT IS IN GEAR. AND IM NOT YELLING. IM ON A WORK PC THAT ONLY TYPES IN CAPS. SORRY. CHECK THE BUSHINGS IF IM WRONG IM WRONG, IF IM RIGHT I JUST SAVE YOU A SHIT LOAD OF MONEY

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Sorry chaps forgot to add, the fact that he gets reversing lights when not in reverse position shows that the shifter is messed up and needs looking at again with a trained eye.

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In that case, the key will not be allowed to turn to the start position 3.
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Please don't shout (USING UPPERCASE) - and your post is garbage...

Worn bushings do not prevent the start relay operating....
Yes they can cause this but the car would run before he messed with the shift lever. The car must be in P or N and a fraction out will cause a no start situation. I also agree with the Please do not shout bit LOL

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In that case, the key will not be allowed to turn to the start position 3.
On many models, the key will go to the run position but nothing will happen if the P position is not recognised.

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OK - I wasn't aware of that.

I did realize that the reversing light situation was also wrong, but assumed that was just another problem...

Regarding starting only being permitted in P & N, my understanding was that the DAS took care of that situation by releasing the steering lock, and only allowing the key to turn fully when those select lever conditions are met. Maybe not on the W210 class. That's why I suggested the CPS.

I'm prepared to be proven wrong though, especially as the OP has messed with the shift module.
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OK - I wasn't aware of that.

I did realize that the reversing light situation was also wrong, but assumed that was just another problem...

Regarding starting only being permitted in P & N, my understanding was that the DAS took care of that situation by releasing the steering lock, and only allowing the key to turn fully when those select lever conditions are met. Maybe not on the W210 class. That's why I suggested the CPS.

I'm prepared to be proven wrong though, especially as the OP has messed with the shift module.
This is why I said on many models it will go to run but not turn the engine. MB has a whole mix of this over the years and models and can be confusing. For example on the W220 and W221 the key will go to the run position but if not in P then nothing will happen, not even a click. It also varies between the blade key setup and the EIS setup.

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PROBLEM. THE PCM WONT ALLOW THE STARTER TO FIRE IF IT IS IN GEAR. AND IM NOT YELLING. IM ON A WORK PC THAT ONLY TYPES IN CAPS. SORRY. CHECK THE BUSHINGS IF IM WRONG IM WRONG, IF IM RIGHT I JUST SAVE YOU A SHIT LOAD OF MONEY
My apologies to you Sir, for saying your comment was crap and you were shouting. It seems that you are possibly right here, and my comments are garbage.

Anyhoo, it's only a forum, and all comments are welcome, right or wrong!
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My apologies to you Sir, for saying your comment was crap and you were shouting. It seems that you are possibly right here, and my comments are garbage.

Anyhoo, it's only a forum, and all comments are welcome, right or wrong!
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