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post #11 of 34 (permalink) Old 11-03-2013, 10:21 AM
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You should ask in model-specific section.
Around 2000 MB started using triptonic shifter, what serve the same purpose on the lever, what wheel paddles do.
I was not impressed how those things work. Had paddles on Audi and they annoyed me pretty bad, the triptonic took long time to get used to and I never had a full confidence with it.
Nothing like solid shifter pushed to 3, 2 or 1
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You should ask in model-specific section.
Around 2000 MB started using triptonic shifter, what serve the same purpose on the lever, what wheel paddles do.
I was not impressed how those things work. Had paddles on Audi and they annoyed me pretty bad, the triptonic took long time to get used to and I never had a full confidence with it.
Nothing like solid shifter pushed to 3, 2 or 1
I'll try that. I'm the opposite, gimme tiptronic style buttons all day The best I've experienced so far was on a 1998 -> Porsche 911. Perfection.
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Cool Hate the Sterring Column Shifter. Console Shifter is Best and Quality.

I completely agree. The steering column shifter on the column is ugly to me and not classy. I have an older S class and was completely disgusted when looking at the new S class when it came to the shifter. To me it is much more luxurious to have the nice leather coated shifter in your right hand in the center console than a plastic piece on the column. It may be retro to have the gear shifter in the center console, but I don't care. It is much classier and feels like you have much more control of your vehicle. I'm 29 years old (I know a bit young for these cars), but I love the S class and have a desire for genuine, luxurious, and quality vehicles. I would pay an extra $5,000 for my vehicle just to have the center console shifter rather than the modern vehicle style shifter. My suggestion to Mercedes is to stick with quality rather than the modern copy cat styles. People seeking luxury will appreciate this much more and that will continue to mark Mercedes with elegance and superiority.
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Over the years, I've become accustomed to the shifter on the console because nearly all the cars I've owned over the past 40 years have had manual transmissions. My most recent car was a Lexus which had an automatic on the console and paddle shifters (what's up with those?).

When I first tested the E350 purchased last year, I immediately liked the idea that M-B had moved the shifter to the column as it reminded me of a 7 Series BMW I drove several years back.

I don't know the electronic or mechanical advantages/disadvantages of having it on the column, but I like it's operation and placement there.

Still don't understand the stupid paddle shifters though. If I wanted to shift, I'd go back to manual T's.

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Over the years, I've become accustomed to the shifter on the console because nearly all the cars I've owned over the past 40 years have had manual transmissions. My most recent car was a Lexus which had an automatic on the console and paddle shifters (what's up with those?).

When I first tested the E350 purchased last year, I immediately liked the idea that M-B had moved the shifter to the column as it reminded me of a 7 Series BMW I drove several years back.

I don't know the electronic or mechanical advantages/disadvantages of having it on the column, but I like it's operation and placement there.

Still don't understand the stupid paddle shifters though. If I wanted to shift, I'd go back to manual T's.
One reason I don't like the column shifter is because my wife last summer (who has an 06 R500) got stuck for 2.5 hours in line at a fast food joint because she put in park and there was no manual release to get it out of park. Tow truck couldn't get in and we were about to get tire dollies set up to jack the vehicle up and manually push the vehicle out of the line. Complete nightmare. (something was wrong with solenoid)

Weeks later a cousin (who has an 10 S550) got stuck at a retail store parking lot.... exact same problem.
My mechanic has indicated that this is posing to be a more common problem lately that he has seen.

I personally don't like having to rely on the electronic parts that way for reasons as mentioned above. Just a personal preference and I just like the manual nice shift. Mercedes has always has the nice notched spots where the gear shifter fits into each gear. I miss that.
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FWIW, console shifters use the same solenoid.
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Pretty sure the days of mechanically actuated automatic transmissions are gone; the location of the controls is secondary to the placement of other controls --Comand, iDrive, etc.
Remember the old dashboard push buttons from Chrysler in the 1950s?

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We just purchased a C250 with the gear stick at the steering wheel.
With the indicator stick on the left and the gear stick on the right, our big worry is that one time we might confuse the two. (We do have a second car with the indicator on the right!) If e.g. you have to change lanes to the left at a speed of 100km and instead of using your indicator, you would push your gear lever up into reverse. Does that ruin the gear box or is a safety mechanism built into the gear box? What will happen? Did somebody have this unexpected experience?
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We just purchased a C250 with the gear stick at the steering wheel.
With the indicator stick on the left and the gear stick on the right, our big worry is that one time we might confuse the two. (We do have a second car with the indicator on the right!) If e.g. you have to change lanes to the left at a speed of 100km and instead of using your indicator, you would push your gear lever up into reverse. Does that ruin the gear box or is a safety mechanism built into the gear box? What will happen? Did somebody have this unexpected experience?
There gear lever ignores your attempt to select R or P if the car is moving (at anything but very low speed). You can see it from the gear indicator, the small triangles indicate which "movements" are allowed.
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It doesn't matter where the selector is I still reach for the console every time I get into the S class. It's hard to change a 50 or 60 year old habit. I do understand they need the room for the "I button" etc but I still grab for the console shifter. When driving it used to be that I'd rest my hand on the console shifter while my wife rested her arm on the console lid. Now we both bang hands all the time trying to rest on the console storage lid. Whine whine whine - the older I get the better I whine
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