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Will this convince anyone that it's okay to follow the FSS system on your Mercedes and not throw away good oil at 3K or 5K miles?

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Add this to evidence: The Effect of Oil Drain Interval on Valvetrain Friction and Wear

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It is interesting, I have two MB dealerships owned by the same group. The first uses Penzoil, and the other uses Mobil One when you get an oil change and request synthetic with two different Q... part numbers
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The video is a Mobil promotion which doesn't speak to it's comparative performance. Mobil seems to often not do that well in comparative performance tests. The link in post 2 suggests that oil actually gets better with age but doesn't answer or address the obvious follow on question of if and when that reverses. Perhaps if you buy the full report it's addressed.

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The Mobil show has only an anecdotic value that, from what was exposed and pointed, meant that a car was run on a dyno, on what was called simulated highway conditions, for an equivalent to 1,000,000 Km (not miles Sokoloff) using a motor oil made with Mobil 1 formula components, but without validating standard additive proportions as in the product being sold.

The SAE paper, a Ford-Conoco endeavor, is quite conclusive: The results obtained from the fleet test is an indicator, not the prediction of a proven fact.

The value I see to all this, besides the tremendous scientific contribution to progress, plus the incentive for further research, and contributive backup to the data that catapulted synthetic lubricants to the top of the heap; is that some users will like them as a refuge to minimize their car maintenance. I could not establish especially extended replacement periods without an analysis of the oil as removed after progressively longer intervals.

This does not take from Mobil the fact that they pioneered the use of synthetic automotive motor oil with an excellent product. But the competition never sleeps and a motor oil developed in France was the first approved and used yet by Mercedes in Germany.

So taking the data, propaganda, results, and availability impartially is the best way to select among the approved motor oils. And yes, Mobil 1 European Formula 0W40 is the chosen star for the US market.

A car would show appreciation for preventive maintenance by never leaving his owner stranded.

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So, how many miles can I expect out of my engine using M1 exclusively, and changing oil only at FSS prompting? Normal driving, 80% highway. Not a heavy foot.

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So, how many miles can I expect out of my engine using M1 exclusively, and changing oil only at FSS prompting? Normal driving, 80% highway. Not a heavy foot.
What is your annual mileage? How old will you be at the current rate when the car reaches 1 million miles?
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What is your annual mileage? How old will you be at the current rate when the car reaches 1 million miles?
Not sure of the relevance, but, about 40k per year. I'll still be around if she reaches 1mm.
So, how long will my engine last in miles if I go by FSS? FSS has me changing it about every 15k or so.

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I've seen few advertised W210 with gas engines running at over 300k. Only few when you consider that some of those cars are 14 years old in US.
Than European taxis record high mileage, but those are diesels only per my knowledge.
It takes holding the car for 40 years, or use it as a taxi to ever get close to such mileage.
Than it takes an idiot to drive gas guzzler up to such mileage, when you can save tens of thousands dollars on diesel fuel alone.
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Thats a nice test and all but the majority of engine wear comes from cold start, and short trips so it's really no surprise that this engine wen't 1 000 000 with little to no wear, in these conditions, same reason a ford crown vic cab can make it past 300k miles where a one used by the average consumer might make 120 before it hits the scrap yard.
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