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Would you be concerned / Purchase

I am looking at a 2009 Mercedes with 18k miles on it. Vehicle is at a non-mercedes dealer.

The vehicle is 8,000 miles past due for Service A. There are no service records and Carfax shows no service visits.

Of course the dealer claims that the owner had it serviced elsewhere and just never reset the indicator, but with no records; who knows.

I am concerned that his could cause warranty issues. What is your advice?
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No service records = walk away, especially when the car is telling you that it is 9,000 over the service interval. If you have engine sludge (as another member did here because he neglected the car and never changed the oil), MB will DENY your warranty claim because you cannot prove you ever changed the oil. There are so MANY used car available for sale with records, why take the chance???
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Thanks for the reply I would walk instantly if this model/option combo was not so difficult to find, and I have negotiated a strong deal. I negotiated the deal site unseen. It was not until I went to see the vehicle that I found out about the service issue.

I have not made up my mind yet, which is why I posted here for opinions. The dealer has agreed to send the vehicle to the Mercedes dealer for inspection and service prior to deliver if I purchase.

I am just wondering how helpful the Mercedes dealer is going to be.
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What is so special/rare about the model? Is is an SLR of something?
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well if you are getting such a good deal on the car then buy it but when you have issues later dont be pissed off cause you were warned about it. i would look at another car just cause of the service indications.
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A dealer inspection and service is the very least I would expect to get. I would insist on that before giving the dealer any money. Plus there is a chance the car has been serviced and that will appear in the Mercedes VMI (vehicle master inquiry) system. Maybe the tech forgot to reset the service indicator (highly unlikely). Your chances are slim but you could also try to get the name and phone number of the previous owner and ask them about the history.

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Read the parallel topic where fellow member was too busy to do the service and 8,000 miles past due the sludge clogged turbo oil passages with predictable consequences.
Per my knowledge such overdue should not create sludge, since the same cars in other parts of the World have 40,000 km intervals, but any car dealer selling such a car without changing the oil has to be an idiot. Who knows what else they can come up with.
On the other hand I am strong believer in the vehicle inspection and usually ignore the records, especially buying high mileage cars. Just because somebody charged the owner for replacing oil filter, doesn't mean he actually did it. More than once on newly purchased car the oil element was "extra crispy" what would indicate staying on the engine for a very long time. Yet there was a receipt for recent service.
If you are making an offer on the car -you should be the one taking it for inspection. I would make a solid offer contingent to the car passing the inspection. If the inspection find something wrong, the seller has to reimburse you for the cost, or refund your inspection cost. Taking the valve cover or other cover off -to check for sludge would also be one of my requirements.
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If this dealer was one to trust...they'd have had the car serviced before trying to pawn it off on you. :2cents: It's pretty sketchy, in my opinion, that they didn't mention the service issue before you came out to look at the car. Walk away.
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Thanks for all the advice. The other thread related to sludge is very concerning.

I have a deposit on this vehicle and a purchase order contingent upon inspection. the dealer has delivered to the local Mercedes dealership for service and inspection. I plan to stop by tomorrow to speak to the service dept.

I will post an update.
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Thanks for all the advice. The other thread related to sludge is very concerning.

I have a deposit on this vehicle and a purchase order contingent upon inspection. the dealer has delivered to the local Mercedes dealership for service and inspection. I plan to stop by tomorrow to speak to the service dept.

I will post an update.
You are making a classic car buying mistake. I have done it before! Its called getting too attached to one car that you don't even own! You could go find a better one with full service history somewhere else. I normally stop myself before handing over any money as I come to my senses, then normally find a better example about a month later!
If you just must have this 'mysterious' 'rare' car, which you refuse to tell us about, then at the very least.......get the selling dealer to pay to change the d@m oil. What an absolute cheapskate dealer. I cannot believe they would put a car on their lot without doing something as simple and cheap as changing to oil.
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