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1985 300SD or 1992 300SD

I would like to try Mercedes for a change but I need something reliable so general opinion is early 90 and before are more reliable.

I've two choices
1.) 1985 300SD 140K km - cheap
2.) 1992 300SD 110K km - $10K+
I know the second one has the (in)famous OM603 engine (with rods bending problem), according to the owner the rods had been replaced.

Which one would be more reliable and less maintenance?
I think the 1992 has an automatic valve adjustment the 1985 will be manual valve adjustment.

3.) Just spotted 1985 190D 150K km

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What is your location?
10 grands in US can buy you 98-99 E300dt -the way more sophisticated that the above car, offering 35 mpg and really good acceleration.
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10 grands in US can buy you 98-99 E300dt -the way more sophisticated that the above car, offering 35 mpg and really good acceleration.
If I could fine one in Alberta Canada!

Maybe I should just bring one from US, I think it has OM606 - is it a good engines?
How about wiring of these newer MB, I've heard they use some bio-degradable wire harness in 1990's that didn't last long.
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The 85 is a very simple vehicle to maintain, but it does require attention to keep in running in top shape. Parts items are much cheaper for the 85 vs the 92. There are many more control units that acompany the 92 that can be very costly that the 85 just doesn't have.

The 85 uses the same transmission as the 190e which was reliable and easy to rebuild. The 92 uses the later version 722.5 transmission that has been a bit of a bear to deal with, especially when it come to rebuilding.
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If I could fine one in Alberta Canada!

Maybe I should just bring one from US, I think it has OM606 - is it a good engines?
How about wiring of these newer MB, I've heard they use some bio-degradable wire harness in 1990's that didn't last long.
Excellent engine. Only better is 320cdi, but that would run in pretty high cost.
No wire harness problem on those cars. Especially diesels.
Coming back to 2 you are comparing, would you buy a car with no seat belts?
How about no airbags?
How about no ABS?
think about it.
I will not even say that 10 year old gasoline engine will sip less fuel than 20+ years old diesel.
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Excellent engine. Only better is 320cdi, but that would run in pretty high cost.
No wire harness problem on those cars. Especially diesels.
Coming back to 2 you are comparing, would you buy a car with no seat belts?
How about no airbags?
How about no ABS?
think about it.
I will not even say that 10 year old gasoline engine will sip less fuel than 20+ years old diesel.
I was looking for a diesel MB station wagon but I do not think I'll find one in Canada :-/
No airbags, no ABS doesn't bother me at all; my old 740 Volvo has no such things and the engine and trany are running like NEW have over 300K km and it cost me less than 500/year (including oil changes to maintain it over 15-years), there are some years that it cost me only 50/year in maintenance :-) it is a perfect car, but it is showing some rust :-/ and I need some extra room.

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Newer diesel wagon with star emblem is my dream for long time. Unfortunately the closest place to find one might be ... Mexico.
Have seen BTW good looking compact diesel pickup by VW lately in So. California. ... on Mexican registration.
I used to drive 85 diesel wagon, that later was replaced with 99 gas wagon. Gas engine was offering better economy and almost double HP than its older diesel brother.
Unfortunately on this continent we do have limited choices of cars, so this is going to be a hard one.
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I was looking for a diesel MB station wagon but I do not think I'll find one in Canada :-/
No airbags, no ABS doesn't bother me at all; my old 740 Volvo has no such things and the engine and trany are running like NEW have over 300K km and it cost me less than 500/year (including oil changes to maintain it over 15-years), there are some years that it cost me only 50/year in maintenance :-) it is a perfect car, but it is showing some rust :-/ and I need some extra room.
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