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AUTO FOLDING MIRRORS, TO CLOSE

i have a 2006 ml 500 with the automatic folding mirros. the problem is they dont stop folding until the mirrors are in touching the door. they have compromised the paint finish. is there anyway the mirrors can be set to stop and still leave some room away from the door and wont get into the paint? i turned that option off for now. but it is handy when in a parking lot. any help or suggestions appreciated.


BTW: this is my first MERCEDES and i think the car is the best i have ever owned
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This situation is clearly wrong. A couple of questions here ...

1. Are you the original owner?
2. If not, was this folding mirror fault obvious when you first got the car?
3. Are both mirrors acting the same when folding.

It very puzzling because the fold in/out motor range is fixed. However, there is a strange statement in the WIS that I cannot follow. It says, "If the mirror housings were manually adjusted to the garage position, (M-B speak for folded-in) the mirror housings are not adjusted via the automatic adjustment"
Now the English translation of the M-B WIS is normally excellent, but not here. I think it means "if the mirrors were manually forced to fold, then the motor adjustment will be upset"

Do you think that this has occurred? I'm not sure what the solution is.
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thank you for your reply, i am not the original owner. the mirrors were never forced by me manualy. only the auto function has been used. originaly i did not notice the fault. but after a few times i noticed the scuff on the paint(drivers and passengers side).and both mirros do the same. i am lucky to have seen it right away. i am still researching for a answer all over the web. to no avail yet. thanks again
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Hi - I have re-visited the WIS pages that cover your external mirror features, and there might be a solution here... I'm assuming that you have the memory feature code 275.

The WIS page below describes the various motors located within the mirror unit and their functions. All these motors are accessed when the mirror cover is removed, together with the mirror lens itself.

The fold motors are M21/1m3 (left) and M21/2m3 (right).

The text advises that there is a potentiometer on each mirror adjustment motor, so I am wondering if this also applies to the fold motors referred to above. If so, that might enable you to make a slight adjustment to the distance moved during folding.

Are you able to DIY an investigation into the mirror interior? Opening it up may reveal a mechanical adjustment facility to the fold operation.
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thanks again keyhole, i never worked on something like this. i am a old school hot rod guy. i will do some investigating when i figure out how to remove the mirror housings for a peek inside at the mechanics of the mirrors. you dont have a pic/instruction on how i would get in there by chance do you? and thank you again for your reply.
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..... you dont have a pic/instruction on how i would get in there by chance do you?
No problem. Here is:

a) how to remove/replace the mirror glass
b) how to remove/replace the mirror cover.

I think that you can see all the motors with just the glass removed, but in any case, you might wish to get the cover off also.

Regarding the instructions, I would use the tilt switch to get the mirror glass into the right position, and then remove the ignition key. And a screwdriver, used carefully, would work in place of that wedge shown.
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HELLO GUYS,
I HAVE SAME PROBLEM... MY MIRRORS ARE TOUCHING DOORS AND I HAVE SMALL SCRATCHES NOW ON BOTCH DOORS BECAUSE OF FOLDING MIRRORS... I TOOK OF THE COVERS AND CANT FIND ANYTHING TO ADJUST ... ANY ADVICE ? PLEASE HELP
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Please don't shout. We don't like it.
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Ok, now is better ?
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Here is move on youtube what happens when I fold mirrors :

Thank you.

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