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s500 Service B - No Warranty, but need oil change

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my 2004 s500 is in need of a oil change but my warranty expired therefore the dealer is wanting to charge me 350-450 bucks for Service B to be performed on my car.

I would like to know if it's recommended to go to third party locations to get this done? Also where can I get a oil change instead of going to the dealer's service? Would those third party locations such as jiffylube or speedee do the job? If I do go to those locations, what kind of oil should I ask them to put in?
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Service B is not dependent on whether your car is under warranty or not...you would still need to pay for it. Personally I would not bring a late model Mercedes to any quick type of oil change facility.
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$350-400 sounds like a lot, but a lot is done and your car is checked carefully for repair issues so they are tended before they become major problems.

Mercedes Benz does not provide free maintenance, so you're going to pay for the oil change whether your car is under warranty or not.

NEVER have your car serviced at any bulk oil change place. From your comments, you are not familiar with Mercedes service requirements. Mercedes Benz has VERY specific fluid requirements for its vehicles. They use synthetic oil--Mobil 1 0-40 to be specific. They use special coolant, ATF, brake fluid, filters, and so on. Jiffy Lube does not have those fluids, so they will happily put in whatever they have and you'll be none the wiser until your car suffers some serious damage as a result. If you were thinking you'd just run down to Jiffy Lube and let them take care of your car, you would probably be well advised to sell this car and buy a Honda or Toyota that Jiffy Lube can service (although I would never take any car to Jiffy Lube).

Please don't turn your car over to shade trees and bulk oil change places. Find a good independent repair shop if you don't want to use the dealership, and have that shop take care of your routine maintenance.

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If you want recommendations for independant mercedes shops, your location would help. You can look up recommendations here:

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What does the car being under or out of warranty have to do with oil changes prices? Nothing, last time I checked.
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Does no one do his/her own oil changes? I don't like going as long as MB says between changes so I do my own about a very 5000k. Buy the oil from the bulk dealer and order the filters on the net. Its easy and saves time and money.
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Does no one do his/her own oil changes? I don't like going as long as MB says between changes so I do my own about a very 5000k. Buy the oil from the bulk dealer and order the filters on the net. Its easy and saves time and money.
You don't list any Mercedes in your profile, so what car are you talking about? If you are changing the oil a FSS car that uses the correct synthetic oil and the correct fleece filters, then you are wasting your time, money and resources if you have never done an oil analysis or paid attention to those that have. I was leery of the extended intervals too until I did an oil analysis to prove to myself that taking a diesel 10,000 miles between oil changes was okay. At 10,000 miles the oil was still very serviceable and just about as clean as the oil was at 5000 miles. A gasoline car would be even better I assume.

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'04 S55 - its there along with rest of the fleet. Not sure I understand your point. Are you asking if I use M1 oil and oem filters - yes of course. I would be surprised to hear of anyone with an AMG who doesn't. No I haven't done an analysis or paid attention to anyone that has as I don't know anyone that has. I am curious as to how one would do an analysis though?
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Simple, send a sample of your motor oil to a lab for analysis. The place I use charges extra for a TBN (total base number) which indicates how much of the active lubricating ingredient remain. Do yourself a favor and have your entire fleet tested every 20,000 miles or so.

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'04 S55 - its there along with rest of the fleet. Not sure I understand your point. Are you asking if I use M1 oil and oem filters - yes of course. I would be surprised to hear of anyone with an AMG who doesn't. No I haven't done an analysis or paid attention to anyone that has as I don't know anyone that has. I am curious as to how one would do an analysis though?
Oops, missed it in your list. You would be surprised by what some people do to their cars and what short cuts they might take. Glad to hear you are using the approved products. Blackstone is a popular lab. They used to do the first analysis for free. A Google search will bring up their info. I use a lab through the MBCA technical director. Cost is about $13 each. Contact George Murphy for info about testing kits - perfanalysis@comcast.net. Do an analysis after 5k and 10K and I bet you will see that what you are doing now is overkill.

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