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Points? That's generally a loss of license.
It has to be a lonely and well known stretch of road, and you are still taking a chance.
I sat at 120 for about 15 minutes in Michigan. I know the hangouts, but that doesn't make it foolproof. It was only once and after I was well aware of the cars condition and the tire speed rating. No traffic and about 4 am. I did flash one semi truck, and slowed to ~90 when passing him. Far from legal but I had to try the attributes of the Benz out at least once. It was entirely stable..flawless and was not wound out. Still room on the tach. NEVER do this around traffic or with passengers. This is your own life/limb you should be risking. Not others. And yet it didn't feel like a risk.

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I have been there at 350kmph in a Porsche and even on an empty road in the early hours of the morning it is scary man, it takes serious concentration simply to keep the car on line.

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Didn't drive over 300kph, but the 200+ or over 130 mph happened to me. It is not the speed that is scary on good road. It is some idiot who might cut you off driving 60 mph slower than you. Even if he gives you few hundreds feet space, at those speeds it will give you wet back.
I have been setting CC at 115, to 120 mph on desert freeways in US few times. On autobahn you just go with the flow at this speed. Can get really boring when you have to cover over 1000 miles daily.
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Points? That's generally a loss of license...
In West Virginia when we accumulate 12 points it's a license suspension but I don't remember for how long. It used to be speeding in excess of 26 mph over the posted speed limit earned us 6 points and they deemed it reckless. Things like passing a stopped school bus, running from the police, etc. are worth more than 6. DUI is an automatic suspension for 1 year. I'd have to agree with you that 100+ mph is going to be a pretty harsh punishment, even if I had a clean driving record. I think right now I have 6 points so I'm on thin ice.

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I have been there at 350kmph in a Porsche and even on an empty road in the early hours of the morning it is scary man, it takes serious concentration simply to keep the car on line.
That reminds me of a friend who had some type of Porsche (911 I'm sure). He said once he was going so fast the windshield wipers were dancing!

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Wow, your panties are in a bunch today!
It is NOT Illegal, as you say, to do the Speed Limit. Your logic is completely flawed. The Speed Limit is the Law of the State. There is no option for exceeding it. Try exceeding the Speed Limit, get a Summons, go to Court and see if your argument wins over the Judge.
Lot's of folks are doing the EXACT, as you state, probably because they are using Cruise Control.
I have lived in many states, many countries, at no time have I ever known
it is legal to exceed the posted Speed Limit.
Roads are not safer, as you state, when a "speed demon" passes you up.
I have noticed those who are adamant about exceeding the speed limit are the ones who are the speed demons. It never crosses their mind for them to switch lanes. Never crosses their mind to slow down, switch lanes, go around the "offender". It always amazes me that the one who IS breaking the Law, then uses a phantom, nonexistant, imagined "law" to sanctify their behaviour.


I have lived in Germany. So pay attention to me, there ARE speed limits everywhere in Germany. I have many many tickets to prove this.
The Autobahn has them. The local roads have them. The Tubes have them.
OBTW-Italy, France, Middle East also have Speed Limit Laws, so does Africa, North America and many other countries.

To request to pass someone, in Deutschland, you do not Highbeam Flash, like we rudely do in the USA.
They use a "left turn signal". To let the person in front of them know,
" Please, I would like to pass on your left..."
I love this simple courtesy.

As you further state, we DO have the "right" ( actually it's a privilege ) to use the Interstate highway system. Regardless of what you may think, I still maintain this privilege. Sorry it upsets you so much.

For the record, I live in bloody Orlando, Florida. Drivers here suck. Bigtime.
Horrificly rude. And for the record, I am a right lane or middle lane driver.
Mostly I stay in the slow lane, right lane.
I do practice courtesies, written and unwritten.

But I certainly don't blog about illegal activities and pronounce them
as legally/morally/ethically right.

Recall-if you do have a lane hugger, chill yourself a moment, then simply, calmy switch lanes, go around them and carry on.
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Something doesn't compute here MBF?
You drive slow lanes in Florida, but have bunch of tickets from German autobahns?
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Yes, that was years ago. When I was much younger. I too "thought" there was NO speed limit in Deutschland. When I saw the "flash" of the Robot Camera hit my Porsche and Mercedes I soon discovered what the flashes meant. It meant automated Speeding Tickets sent to your address on record. I was explained what it meant to drive in Germany and to respect their laws. . Nowadays, I leave earlier, drive slower and get their relaxed and on time.

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It is NOT Illegal, as you say, to do the Speed Limit. The Speed Limit is the Law of the State. Roads are not safer, as you state, when a "speed demon" passes you up. It always amazes me that the one who IS breaking the Law, then uses a phantom, nonexistant, imagined "law" to sanctify their behaviour. But I certainly don't blog about illegal activities and pronounce them
as legally/morally/ethically right.

Let me respond as organized as possible for the benefit of the members of this site:

1. I never said it was illegal to drive the speed limit. But I did say it was illegal for someone to drive in the passing lane without passing.

2. Yes, the speed limit is indeed the law of the state, but not the "end all, be all" law of the roadway network.

3. Did you read what I said usually happens when people who want to pass cannot? People tailgate, pass on the shoulder, etc. This is far more dangerous than them being able to pass other cars at +5-10 mph.

4. It is definitely a law in many states. In the CRS (Colorado Revised Statutes) 42-4-1013 it states:


(1) A person shall not drive a motor vehicle in the passing lane of a highway if the speed limit is sixty-five miles per hour or more unless such person is passing other motor vehicles that are in a nonpassing lane or turning left, or unless the volume of traffic does not permit the motor vehicle to safely merge into a nonpassing lane.

(2) For the purposes of this section:

(a) "Nonpassing lane" means any lane that is to the right of the passing lane if there are two or more adjacent lanes of traffic moving in the same direction in one roadway.

(b) "Passing lane" means the farthest to the left lane if there are two or more adjacent lanes of traffic moving in the same direction in one roadway; except that, if such left lane is restricted to high occupancy vehicle use or is designed for left turns only, the passing lane shall be the lane immediately to the right of such high occupancy lane or left-turn lane.

(3) A person who violates this section commits a class A traffic infraction.


I'm not making this stuff up. This is law. There are signs every few miles that state either "Keep right except to pass" or "Slower traffic keep right". If this is an imaginary made up law, why did the state pay for hundreds of signs? Hmmm?

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How can this behavior be justified?

Here is the BEST driver's ed video in history, it was made in 1965 but is every bit as relevant today as then:

5:10 to 6:08 in this clip is an example of what can happen in severe circumstances of people who refuse to keep right.


The second part shows aggressive drivers who can't pass and inattentive drivers (cell phone usage fits into here as a modern example).



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Here is a Colorado State Patrol brochure on the issue:

http://csp.state.co.us/downloads/leftlanebrochure.pdf

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