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The M103 is a 3.0L straight 6. Looks like the poster has a 2.3L 4 cylinder. If you wanted the procedure for removing the head on a M103, let me know. I have it around here somewhere.
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Yes turning the bolts is the key. More like getting at the bolts and when you do, not breaking the exhaust manifold bolts/studs.

Really this job is not that bad on any car as long as have a good memory or system to document how you took the thing apart. I took lots of digitals when I did my VW.

Main things:
-have the head checked by an automotive machine shop for cracks and flatness
-replace the head bolts
-torque them to spec as indicated with the gasket kit
-buy a quality gasket kit
-retorque the bolts after a few hours of operation

DON'T apply VW procedure to Mercedes.
To my knowledge for last decade MB is using stress bolts, who have quite different procedure. Finding it might be the biggest part of the job, but lot of members here have access to professional information.
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Anyone have the torque values for cylinder head bolts?
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Normally I would. But as I said in post #3 the quantity of detailed data is simply too much to post here. It would involve over a dozen images from the WIS, any of which could require further clarification from me. I know that these forums are to help, but there are limits to the quantity of help we can supply.

Most others here did not consider this was a typical DIY. I reckon that you would do yourself a favor if you passed this one to a trustworthy shop.
keyhole, all I need is the cylinder head bolt torque sequence/specs and cam cap torque specs. Is that too much to ask?
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On 1 Dec you asked "How in depth is this job?" Within a couple of days several members had advised you that it was very difficult - best left to a workshop. Undeterred, you have returned to the thread several times to ask for specific details, which so far no-one has elected to post here.

Considering that you have not even bothered to give the BenzWorld membership the courtesy of adding your details with the UserCP, and your questions here are strangely terse, I will rest my case on this thread and move on elsewhere...
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many of you can but won't. What is your problem? This gentleman was informed that it is a tough job yet he is undeterred.

He believes he can do it and may very well have the skills and tools. Either help him or GTFO. Continual discouragement does not become us.
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many of you can but won't. What is your problem? This gentleman was informed that it is a tough job yet he is undeterred.

He believes he can do it and may very well have the skills and tools. Either help him or GTFO. Continual discouragement does not become us.
I will take a look at WIS this afternoon and extract some of the necessary details, will post back this evening OK.

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On 1 Dec you asked "How in depth is this job?" Within a couple of days several members had advised you that it was very difficult - best left to a workshop. Undeterred, you have returned to the thread several times to ask for specific details, which so far no-one has elected to post here.

Considering that you have not even bothered to give the BenzWorld membership the courtesy of adding your details with the UserCP, and your questions here are strangely terse, I will rest my case on this thread and move on elsewhere...
Keyhole, for having the status of an elite member, your responses to my inquiries have been strangely unhelpful. However, thank you anyway.
rocky raccoon, thank you for the support!
eric242340, thank you and I am looking forward to it.

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many of you can but won't. What is your problem? This gentleman was informed that it is a tough job yet he is undeterred.

He believes he can do it and may very well have the skills and tools. Either help him or GTFO. Continual discouragement does not become us.
rocky - if you asked here I could probably post you instructions on how to take out your own appendix. But I wouldn't do that, out of consideration for your own well-being. Likewise if this had been a Ford or Toyota group I would not hesitate to provide.

But this newby guy has an MB, and I do not want to help him wreck it. Get it?
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Please remember that is was your decision to do this job and I wish you luck, if there is a particular problem whilst doing this job simply post up here and we will discuss it.
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