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I recently purchased a Chinese Star C3.. Upon opening, I found out three voltage regulators; U1 and U2 of the type 7805, and U51 of the type 7808.

Could someone help me to figure out, if I have an unwanted 7808, that will fry up the electronics if I connect this device? I have not, so far, in order to avoid feeding 8 volts if the C3 electronics, indeed, need 7805 in the place of this 7808..

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The 7808 saga.

Please disregard the last post. It has to be 7805, as posted numerous times before.
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Hi there will you please mail me the xentry keygen developer thanks a million
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Do you think this request belongs to the subject of this thread?

If you are asking a keygen on your second post, I guess I could have asked your Mercedes when I reached 100.
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You are not going to find that here.
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With all due respect, Key Programmers are scan tools tailored to dealing only with security protocols. The issue that the thread is all about is pirated software, which is an issue that has plagued all facets of Auto Repair. I am surprised the site does not delete all threads relative to pirated materials.

This is NOT to say that one must buy the OEM device, as other firms independently, or through license develop their own.

Most car manufacturers are participating members of NASTF in the US, and now a newly formed organization for aftermarket access for Canada.

Such access is strongly controlled to prevent vehicle theft, so may only be accessed by per-credentialed locksmiths.

For DIY-ers, I believe the manufacturers should offer better access to repair data that does not diminish the security of the vehicle. In addition to that, I believe that every vehicle should have a unique access number availed ONLY to the vehicles' owner, who THEN would decide who they choose to service it.

In the absence of the above, We as locksmiths, as well as other trades that are in the automotive arena have brought to bear independently developed, LEGITIMATE NON OEM tools and technical data to work on vehicles where manufacturer refuses cooperation, or just does not have the data history to adequately service ( 1994+ only is a common theme )

Theft of intellectual data should not be tolerated..... neither should be manufacturers lording over their clients, keeping them only through what I believe are violations of the Moss-Magnusun Act, provision including:
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I would interpret the above to addressing the issues requiring of proprietary parts, but also the tools necessary to service them.

I believe in CONSUMER choice, but not illegal activity on either side. This site should take a stand, as well.

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A large part of Mercedes policy for exclusive availability of certain tools among accredited workshops is the predictable case of tyre kickers messing up manufacturer specifications and then screaming bloody murder. A distinct minority of private owners are in any way qualified to start making personal judgement calls upon retuning manufacturers specifications, but every half wit and his neighbour thinks they can. What you wind up with is a road safety issue and a libelous issue.

Point one, pirated firmware is an intellectual property issue, one of copyright and patent and the penalties can most definitely be exceedingly severe, typically beginning at fines in the order of $30,000 for individuals and $300,000 for corporations, and/or jail time.

Point two, pirated firmware is a political and ethical issue, they are available more cheaply because conscionable legislation is circumvented to exercise child labour and other illegal employee conditions, legislative health and safety guidelines are ignored, substandard components are used and copied manufacturers qualitive production is misrepresented by proxy (eg. half of america home mods their mercs, their mercs all drive like crap, half the used mercs on the market become crap, everybody calls mercedes crap).

Point three, the EU has been reviewing legislation in recent months preventing end user modification of automotive property, that is banning and outlawing any modification from manufacturers specification of any vehicle, at penalty of law. Obviously it's fairly unpopular as a proposal but it has been doing the rounds as Parliaments test the water of public opinion with it. This legislation would be enforced throughout the EU.
Things like this in the thread here, if you consider the big picture are only going to make legislation like that much more likely in the future.



Just the other day I saw a thread at MB world in which a guy wanted to input leaner settings in his C200K chip via some purchased software (I'm guessing also unsanctioned pirate software). He wanted the car to run leaner to improve fuel economy.
See in his hair brained scheme he simply decided you can alter modern auto engine settings like a plane and set an economy setting with a leaner mixture and less throttle, simple right?
Not in a supercharged engine with variable cams and DOHC and an ECU that's only going to try undoing what you did to its fuel settings by retarding spark for net loss in operational efficiency. It's not how you improve fuel economy in his engine, you do it with a nicer exhaust and more efficient intercooler, go for a port and polish if that's not enough. Sure it's a couple of grand and up but it's a well engineered engine already performing very efficiently, further gains are subtle and expensive.

But no he's got his software and he's all excited so basically has some hair brained schemes with it, and his car's going to ping its head off on the next hot day or the first big hill he loads up on. Then this joker'll probably walk into a Merc workshop, for legal reasons keeping his mouth shut about what he's done and threatening lawsuits when naturally no matter how much he spends in mechanical repairs they can't seem to fix the problem...

Like I said a distinct minority are in any way qualified to start messing around with the manufacturer specifications, those few that are also perfectly happy to bin the engine if they mess it up and install a fresh one. But also the same kind who have a clue about engineering demands and are perfectly happy to drop wads of cash doing the right things with high quality aftermarket components and machining to get their carefully planned and well thought out results.

FYI you know what you absolutely need before you remap an ECU? A roller dyno. Get one of those with this kit?

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According to your problem, I found that this version MB STAR C3 works only on IBM T30 model, more detail at XXX.

I'm not sure whose problem you are referring to but you could be more accurate with your statement. The sales item has a HDD prpared for an IBM T30 laptop, the tool itself works with any computer (except that this specific variant hardly works long with any laptop, it is one of the low quality devices).
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I'm not sure whose problem you are referring to but you could be more accurate with your statement. The sales item has a HDD prpared for an IBM T30 laptop, the tool itself works with any computer (except that this specific variant hardly works long with any laptop, it is one of the low quality devices).
+1, if it was prepared for the IBM T30 then it is one of the very early versions and not too stable.

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Hi Guys
I have the same problem, so did you found the solution in meantime.
My problem is also in port... i think.. But i have super mb *LINK REMOVED*
If someone has a solution please tell me !!!!!
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