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post #11 of 19 (permalink) Old 11-03-2009, 08:48 AM
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The formula for a 119 motor chain problem seems to be slightly stretched chain, marginal tensioner, neither of which is a problem until the upper chain guide breaks, usually bank 1. The guides are made out of nylon, subject to heat cycle degradation - wise to replace them somewhere in the 100-150k / 10-15 year range, especially if you drive hard. It's not a very expensive job.
Thanks for explaining this in detail. Unfortunately doesn't look good for the OP, let's hope his car is an exception.
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Well it is confirmed, the timing chain broke and the engine is worthless! I am not sure what I am going to do. To put a new motor in is going to be over $5k with only a 30 day warranty. To have the engine rebuilt with a 3 year warranty is around $6,500. The sad thing is the rest of the car is in great shape. Any advice.........
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Those cars generate good money parting out.
One owner of perfectly good ML55 had it parted out to get the price he couldn't get selling it as a whole.
Than sounds that investing 5 grands to get newer engine might still make lot of sense.
You will not get you money back if you sell the car next year, but statistically you can enjoy next 10 years of good ride.
The only problem is that you just proved to be exception to the statistics, but hey, there always are exceptions.
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What was going on there? I've never heard of a double row timing chain just breaking, especially at such low miles. You should be able to get a replacement engine for a lot less than $5k, a whole lot less.
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The $5k is everything in (labour, new timing chain, oil change etc) The motor itself is around $2k. Now to convince the better half...........
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Still way too high - you need to get that down considerably to have any hope of an economically viable project.
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I located an engine for $1,400 with 188,000 km on it (how I can verify the mileage, I have no idea) but again, it is the labour that takes the cost up over $3,500. My feeling is to part the car out.

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When the crankshaft is not turning that is not a good thing.
I'm sure his crankshaft is turning just peachy.

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What was going on there? I've never heard of a double row timing chain just breaking, especially at such low miles. You should be able to get a replacement engine for a lot less than $5k, a whole lot less.
Well, I agree that it does seem like a somewhat premature failure, but we don't know the maintenance history of this particular engine, so...

As for five grand for an engine, that seems if anything a little low.

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