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Nationality or anything else about the workers means little, as the processes are engineer designed and they simply perform them. Not much "craftsmanship" involved, except, possibly for upholstery..
You can't engineer motivation.
One of the problems US automakers faced was that Union workers who "deserve" $40/hr having one nut to fasten every few minutes have been "too busy" doing other things to put proper torque on the nut.
Can you estimate how many % born citizens pick up lettuce in this country?
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You can't engineer motivation.
One of the problems US automakers faced was that Union workers who "deserve" $40/hr having one nut to fasten every few minutes have been "too busy" doing other things to put proper torque on the nut.
Can you estimate how many % born citizens pick up lettuce in this country?

How many years have you worked on any UAW production line, or are you just regurgin' some "facts" learned through media?
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I don't have to work on auto production lane, to see that each time I fire up my Ford flatbed -it needs a repair done.
Last winter it even started having electrical fire 2 weeks after I parked it.
Media actually don't say much about those issues. They have to get along with government afterall.
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How many of your Ford's problems were due to a bad weld, a missing fastener or improperly attach harness? Or were the problems due to bad design, either in the intial engineering or the specifications of parts and materials?

If it's the later, I don't understand blaming the line workers for design problems or when the company bean counters decide to cheap out on parts, "value engineering" and manufacturing.
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How do you tell improperly attach harness from bad engineering?
Things obvious like missing fastener don't really exist.
I had bad pedal sensor on Ford and I did have one bad in MB. I had bad ball joint on Ford and bad CV joint on MB.
So the screw ups exist everywhere, but why on Ford they happen 10 times more often than on MB?
Than US union do a good job assembling ML, but lousy assembling Fords.
What da heck?
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I had no idea there was a US Museum, outside of the classics center, so very interested to see your pics!
I'm back from my business trip. The MBUSI museum is pretty nice. When you enter on the right hand side, it talks about the history of Mercedes-Benz along with the cars, and shows the evolution of the design up to the present.

On the left hand side shows features of the safety and performance of the vehicles, and well as signed models such as the M-class from the production line.

The gift shop isn't bad, they have everything from magnets to hats, to Mercedes Drive road signs to wallets. They were also giving out free posters of the ML 55 AMG parked next to Dreamland BBQ (great place if you haven't eaten there, be sure to try the bread pudding).

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I went to the Alabama facility with my wife a couple of weeks ago en route to Arizona where were moved to.

We pre-registered for the tour, and it was nice, but the woman who gave the tour, althought very sweet, was a little rough around the edges. She knew some stuff, but was not technically knowledgeful at all.

I was very dissapointed with the "museum" and gift shop however. Perhaps I may have liked it had I not been to the BMW facility in S Carolina a couple months before. That is a much nicer museum and shop than the MB facility.
BMW had a lot more stuff to buy, I had to stop myself from getting more. I got a F1 tshirt, pilsner glass stuff for my newborn nephew etc... MB had nothing. I tried to find anything but local dealers have such a better selection. I only dropped $20 and I was trying to shop! BMW also had a pretty full museum, the MB one was misicule by comparison.

I'm a MB fan waaay more than BMW. I own a Benz, never had a bimmer, so I'm not biased. Mercedes cut the budget for the facility and it shows. They dropped the ball and I was dissappointed.

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