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Vehicle: 1991 w201 190e 2.6
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Ignition Replacement W201 190e (1991) (HOT TIPS!!!!)

Hi all. I have been perusing this forum for the last few days, seeking a solution for my STUCK ignition tumbler. As most of you know, that have ahd this problem, finding effective solutions isn't always that easy. Sometimes you can tear through a thread, thinking you have FOUND IT, all to discover after a while reading, that there really isn't the 'ANSWER' that you (or I) hoped for.

But having said that, if you stick to it, and keep reading, you WILL find what you need here, or in one of the other forums on the Benz topic. Ok, enough rambling, let me get to the point......

1MM makes ALL the difference. Seriously. I read posts here and there about my problem which was; Key stuck in position 0. No matter what I did, I could not get it to turn.

So, after reading here, over at 'Diesel', and others, I was resigned to the fact that I would have to DRILL out the tumbler. FRIGHTENING. But, ya gotta do what ya gotta do.....right?

Not necessarily. Don't get me wrong, I tried the vibration, the WD40, the graphite, and even spent 45 on a new key. WASTE OF MONEY. I ordered the part from the dealer ($108), and waited.

In the interim, stress set in. I literally took the drivers' side nearly ALL apart...(for nothing ....again). Remember......1MM made all the difference.

Here's what finally happened. On the day the part arived (2day shipping), I decided to try the jiggle dance one more time. However, I had read somewhere that it is possible that the key can go TOO FAR INTO THE CHAMBER, and that would help the key NOT TO WORK.


They were right. That fateful day my new tumbler arrived, I got it home, unwrapped it like a new christmas toy, and just started playing with it. After thinking about what drill bit I was going to use, in hopes of NOT destroying my dash, I noticed something interesting.....that there was about 1MM of space between the key, and the base of the tumbler.

WHAT?!?!?!?! I thought to myself......wait.....there isn't that same gap on the installed ignition tumbler.

So, as I was setting up to DRILL, I tried it again...the jiggle/twist game. Started off gentle, and then got into it a little. I made sure that there was the SAME 1MM space between the bottom of the rubber on my key, and the actual ignition face, and as I was jiggling......BAM! It turned.

Now those of you who have solved this problem, know that the ecstasy you feel when that key turns...is like LITTLE else you've felt for likely...days. OH MY! It was nearly orgasmic.

And, with my key in position 1, I was able to insert my home made 'removal tool' made of a thin but strong coat hanger, and in LESS than 2 minutes, the tumbler was OUT and in my hand. I almost fainted.

Success! Finally. Old tumbler out...new tumbler in...and car starts like it should now! WHEW!

Here are the important things to take from this discussion...
1. PATIENCE is in fact the virtue required for THIS ignition replacement.
2. Tapping and jiggling and vibrating DOES help.
3. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE NEW (dealership issued) PART ready.
4. When you think it just wont work anymore......look closely at the key sitting IN the stuck tumbler......see if the rubber is touching the face plate. If it is......slide it out ONLY about 1MM....you will likely hear a 'clicking' as you are trying to turn it......

For me...that was the sign. That was what let me know that I was on the path. With the key in that slightly removed position, I tapped on it lightly with a small hammer.....shifting the wheel with my knee....and voila! Success.

1MM makes ALL the difference......

Best of luck to ALL, and please....whatever you do.......exercise PATIENCE!

Best of luck to all, and thank you to all that gave up their secrets and tips....

This place is WONDERFUL...

A NEW and lifetime Benz owner....
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