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Wheels: Need Your Input

I am planning a "dream car" to do at my leisure in my golden years. The area where I don't wish to be thrown out of the store relates to wheels and tires.
I'd like some precision 3-piece rims and well balanced sets, as well as tires.

MY QUESTION: Will I be allowed to weigh, measure, run rims in spin balancer, and otherwise inspect rims and tires prior to purchasing them. I know this will affect price, but is that an acceptable procedure with tunning stores?

Thank you in advance for your cooperation in giving me your opinion.
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I am planning a "dream car" to do at my leisure in my golden years. The area where I don't wish to be thrown out of the store relates to wheels and tires.
I'd like some precision 3-piece rims and well balanced sets, as well as tires.

MY QUESTION: Will I be allowed to weigh, measure, run rims in spin balancer, and otherwise inspect rims and tires prior to purchasing them. I know this will affect price, but is that an acceptable procedure with tunning stores?

Thank you in advance for your cooperation in giving me your opinion.
If you can find a shop that can accomadate that, more power to you.
For the most part shops won't want to bring in such an item unless they're sure they can sell it. They can't ALWAYS return it and keep in mind, once a tire is mounted it cannot be returned to the manufacturer.
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If you buy quality stuff, i guess there won't be any problem..
A good wheel with a quality tire on it should be in balance without any balance weigths on it
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If you buy quality stuff, i guess there won't be any problem..
A good wheel with a quality tire on it should be in balance without any balance weigths on it
Thanks for your input. Your point is the very reason why I want to inspect thoroughly everything before money changes hands. I thought that with a 20% deposit they should allow it.
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If you buy quality stuff, i guess there won't be any problem..
A good wheel with a quality tire on it should be in balance without any balance weigths on it
They must have special wheels and tires next to the dikes. I've seen HREs with premium tires and particularly for dynamic balancing weights are always required. The smaller the tire/wheel combo the less weight that is usually required, though. When I had my little Datsun with stock 13" steel wheels and el cheapo tires from Discount Tire (4 FOR $88!! COME IN NOW!!) three of them needed no weights, the other had two 1/2 oz. weights about three inches apart.

JoeVal, I'm with the first responder. I've never known a performance shop that would do that. You might find one that will let you observe some aspects of the process, but most won't even let you in the room while they're balancing the tires. That said, good performance shops will also make proper recommendations to appease their customers, so if you give them specific targets and goals, that should work. Also, a good tire pro will always seek to balance the heavy spot in the tire with the light spot on the wheel to achieve the best raw balance possible. I'd suggest going in and talking with a few of them, get a feel for the place, see how they're handling cars and equipment, how open they are to pointed questions, meeting specific requirements, what brands they sell and recommend, etc. If you have a good BS meter I'm sure you'll find one you'll feel comfortable with.

No one has yet asked, so I must: What is your dream car? What do you plan on doing to it?

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At the same time he needs to be realistic.
My tire guy has been in business for over 20 years and bought the shop from the last owners - same location and all that for thirty years ago.
Dirty, greasy, messy, and stuffed full of old papers and junk - but he knows tires. I haven't had a problem with anything from him.
Realistically what it comes down to is are you going to be so much of a hassle to them that your business isn't worthwhile?
Just something to keep in mind.
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