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#1 (permalink) Old 08-18-2008, 02:29 PM
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1 Malfunction => "hdlmp cornering"

Hello experts and other members

I have a 2004 E 320 T CDI Avantgarde. A few weeks ago I recieved this error message in the display. It comes and goes, but now it seems more constant.

I took the car to a MB Garage, and the did a diagnostic search. The result was a big "F", and they told me that I have to replace the whole headlight.

Do any of you have some experience whit this. Do i really have to replace the whole headlight, or is it possible to repair this in a less expensive way? A new headlight and labor will cost me apx 1800 Euro.

Apreciate for all kind of help!

(hope you understand what i`m writing, my english isn`t very good)

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The W211 section could know more. Are these really cornering head lights on a 2004 car, I don't remember when did those first come? The lights are not only levelled (adjusted vertically) but also turn horizontally at corners (not only those fog lights coming on at corners)?

If it is the main light unit, it would likely be one of the actuating motors that are not spare parts officially but at least were available for the basic auto-levelling Xenons. You should find a post from the W211 section about this DIY fix. It does not necessarily apply to your lights but I would guess it does.
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First of all, thanks Diesel Benz for a quick reply!

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Are these really cornering head lights on a 2004 car, I don't remember when did those first come?
I was almost certain myself that the cornering light first came after the facelift on the E-class. But my garage told me that the cornering light was an additional option on earlier models. The only proof the serviceman gave me was that if i didn`t have cornering light, I wouldn`t recieve this error message.

My instruction manual do not give me an anwer, either do the equipmentlist that shows when I write my VIN-number on this russian site. The only thing I`ve found is that I have Bi-xenon.

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If it is the main light unit, it would likely be one of the actuating motors that are not spare parts officially but at least were available for the basic auto-levelling Xenons. You should find a post from the W211 section about this DIY fix. It does not necessarily apply to your lights but I would guess it does.
Thx, I will read this tread and maybe repost my question on the 211-section

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My instruction manual do not give me an anwer, either do the equipmentlist that shows when I write my VIN-number on this russian site. The only thing I`ve found is that I have Bi-xenon.
Which option code was assigned for the Bi-Xenon lights on your datacard?
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Hmm, can it be the code 615?
Otherwise I have some unknown codes, maybe it can be one ofe them?

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Hmm, can it be the code 615?
Otherwise I have some unknown codes, maybe it can be one ofe them?
614 is the older, basic Bi-Xenon option, so 615 sounds right for cornering lights. I would have to do some homework, don't remember this by heart. Perhaps someone else can confirm this. I don't think it would come with one of the unknown codes.

I have cornering lights on my W221 but I don't remember if you can test the horizontal motion when the car is stationary and do the lights only turn when the light sensor reports "night". I think it would be useful to figure out which movement is the issue.
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Option code 615 actually decodes for a W211 as "Bi-Xenon headlight with active curve light right drive". The "right drive" must refer to right hand traffic, 614 reads "for right-hand traffic".
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So, a stupid question - is "active curve light" the same as "cornering lights"? In my level of english (it`s limited, I`m a norwegian) it seems like the same thing, but I`m not sure.

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So, a stupid question - is "active curve light" the same as "cornering lights"? In my level of english (it`s limited, I`m a norwegian) it seems like the same thing, but I`m not sure.
If you don't know what it means, don't go behind your language skills, your English is better than some native English speaking have. My English is worse than yours and can honestly admit "I don't know".

But I have some tools I can use when I do not know. Actually I found 615 from my W221, declared as "Bi-Xenon headlight with active curve light right drive". But I also found option code 619 which reads as "cornering illumination".

So I conclude that the official terminology must be "cornering illumination" covering the fog lamps on the W211 that come on at the side you turn on crossroads or the specific lights for the same purpose on the W221 while "active curve light" must refer to the head lights that turn horizontally during normal driving at winding roads.

Also I conclude that you must have two control motors per headlight unit in your car, one for the horizontal adjustment and one for vertical adjustment.
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first of all, thanks for the comments regarding to my english - maybe I had a good teacher after all (I didn`t think so 20 years ago :-) )

I`m positive that I don`t have the lightening of fog lamps when turning the steering wheel. So the error can be inside the headlamp, and it make sense that it is two motors inside of it. But if it`s possible to change only one motor instead of the whole headlight, I`m not sure.

I also guess that it might be a connection-problem, or an error in some unit that send signals to the headlight.

My worries is to spend almost 2000 Euros an later find aut that the problem could be solved in a much less expensive way. Unfortunatly I don`t trust my MB-garage, they always seems to advice me to replace the unit whitout thinking of price. So therefore I hope someone out here have some experience whit this.

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