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Potential first time owner, need advice

Hi everyone,

I am considering buying my very first Benz, a 1999 E320 with 133,500 on the odo. I have taken a look at the car and taken it around the private seller's appt. (he has no plates yet, since he bought it from another guy just to sell it), and it looks extremely good inside and out, everything seems to work and I did not notice anything wrong with it at all. He wants $7,000 for it. My main concern is that with the high mileage, something might go wrong in the future which would be costly to fix. For you veteran Benz owners, do you know if the mileage on this vehicle is considered exceptionally high, and if I am likely to run into reliability issues just due to the age of the vehicle? Is the price fair?

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Skip this vehicle. It's too expensive for the mileage and if you go one year newer you get a much better vehicle. 2000 was the first year of the face-lift. 96-99 were not that great of vehicles. Their build quality was lacking and their electronics were poor. The 2000 model year revisions made the entire E class a much better vehicle. Build quality improved and the electronics got better.
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I would pass on this car too. You should be able to find a 2000+ E320 with fewer miles for about the same money. I also think it would be worth spending more than $7000 for newer and fewer miles.

My 1st MB was a 1998 E430 with 118,000 miles, I was the 3rd owner and I had no service history. That car cost me a lot of money to maintain but it taught me a lesson. Among other things, the A/C compressor developed a leak and that was going to be very expensive. That's when I traded for what I have now.

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Aside from the mileage, it’s a *story* car. With me, this type of merchandise has a higher likelihood of someone (the buyer usually) being dissatisfied.

So, some guy bought the car from someone else, just to sell it. Does that mean owner number one was incapable of selling the car? If so, what else were they incapable of doing? Does this mean owner number two swindled owner number one? If so, why wouldn’t they swindle you too?

No plates? Is that common where you live? Is it registered? Does the VIN on the registration match the VIN on the car? Does the sellers name appear on the registration? Does the seller’s driver’s license match who they claim to be? If it’s not registered, you may want to ask yourself, “Why?”

Personally, if I really thought I trusted the guy enough to buy the *story* car, I’d take it to the local police station and ask if the car is stolen. If the seller balks, I’d pass. I’d contact the DMV and ask what’s required to get a clean title on that car. If the seller balks, I’d pass. Then I’d pay a dealer to perform a pre-purchase inspection. If the seller balks, I’d pass. You’d hate to give someone $7K for a car that needed $7K in work. Or worse, pay for a car only to have the police give it to someone else.
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The seller is "curb-stoning"

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Aside from the mileage, it’s a *story* car. With me, this type of merchandise has a higher likelihood of someone (the buyer usually) being dissatisfied.

So, some guy bought the car from someone else, just to sell it. Does that mean owner number one was incapable of selling the car? If so, what else were they incapable of doing? Does this mean owner number two swindled owner number one? If so, why wouldn’t they swindle you too?

No plates? Is that common where you live? Is it registered? Does the VIN on the registration match the VIN on the car? Does the sellers name appear on the registration? Does the seller’s driver’s license match who they claim to be? If it’s not registered, you may want to ask yourself, “Why?”

Personally, if I really thought I trusted the guy enough to buy the *story* car, I’d take it to the local police station and ask if the car is stolen. If the seller balks, I’d pass. I’d contact the DMV and ask what’s required to get a clean title on that car. If the seller balks, I’d pass. Then I’d pay a dealer to perform a pre-purchase inspection. If the seller balks, I’d pass. You’d hate to give someone $7K for a car that needed $7K in work. Or worse, pay for a car only to have the police give it to someone else.
Playing the part of a "dealer" without a license. MarcusF has given you really good advice.

Pre-facelift cars do have a following, but you do have to do your homework. Service records? CarFax? Pre-purchase inspection? Everything needs to line up, and then negotiate the price. If any piece in this puzzle is bad/missing, then walk away... Fast.

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Yes sounds like a curbsider to me too. I think you've been given good advice above.

Could have 233,500 miles on it. Buying a used car is a lottery in itself, without throwing a dubious seller into the mix.
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Pass on this one

You need to take the advice of many people and pass on this bad boy. plus you need to go up in years at least 1 more year.

99 is ok but 2000 is better

2003 is even better.

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99 is ok but 2000 is better

2003 is even better.

Correct on the first line. Incorrect on the second. 2003 was horrible for the E. So was 04. They were poorly built and very unreliable. 05 was OK. 06 was MUCH better. 07 was back on track.
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Correct on the first line. Incorrect on the second. 2003 was horrible for the E. So was 04. They were poorly built and very unreliable. 05 was OK. 06 was MUCH better. 07 was back on track.
this is very reliable information the 03 04 had issues with electronics but a 2000 2002 w210 e class where very good cars


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