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post #11 of 24 (permalink) Old 08-19-2007, 09:16 PM
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Well after all these posts no ones really managed to say why the new cars have this problem. From what I've heard, and the most reasonable answer, is that the new paints have to be more "environmentally friendly" and the down side to this is the fact that they dont cure the same way as the old and end up having slight orange peel look. And i don't think MB will be able to buff every car before a clear coat without a considerable extra cost.
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could someone be kind enough to explain what this "orange peal" look means?

Also, the clear coat disappears in 6 months or so right? So you could buff the paint and then wax it and get rid of this "orange peal" problem?
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If the paint is as bad as you say--and it is ubiquitous--MB will soon issue a recall and you and the others should have the option of a complete make-over or a new car. They don't let real problem fester. They've learned the hard way it does not pay to ignore real problems...
Your must be joking.
MB will not even pay for a frigging 10$ design problem.
How is the color issue a "real problem" ? Transmission failure is a real problem. Power steering blowup is a real problem.
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could someone be kind enough to explain what this "orange peal" look means?

Also, the clear coat disappears in 6 months or so right? So you could buff the paint and then wax it and get rid of this "orange peal" problem?
It may or may not be on your car, but look at the paint very closely, like on the trunk where the badges are and look around it. It may be hard to see at first, but if your car has orange peel, then it should resemble the peel of a orange (lol).

You can see it slightly in this picture along the fender. It's not as noticeable on lighter colors. Look at the reflections of objects in the paint to see the orange peel.


You can definitely notice it beneath the ML320 badge here.


But, a good wax and polish will do well to hide most of it making it look smooth.
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could someone be kind enough to explain what this "orange peal" look means?

Also, the clear coat disappears in 6 months or so right? So you could buff the paint and then wax it and get rid of this "orange peal" problem?

Clear Coat should never disappear in Six Monnths, you must be thinking of a Wax job which should be done every six months.

If im not mistaken, and correct me if Im wrong, but Orange peal is something that happens to the Clear Coat and not the paint it self. I could be wrong.

I have corrected this effect along with fish eye, by wet sanding (with a huge amount of research in the correct way of wet sanding) my car with 110% results and it cost me nothing but time. I was then able to do a very strengent claying and waxing and the car is still smooth.

Yes, they should have taken care of that at the dealer, but I will say this, my dealer offered to fully detail my car prior to purchase and I told him no....leave the car alone. I knew I would detail it my self.


OK after a quick search I found Orange Peal is something that accures during the painting process. I thought is was something that accurd to the clear coat. In any event, a realy realy realy good detail shop should be able to take care of that, good look.






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Here is a link to a rather extreme example of orange peel (fourth photo down)...

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I have a 2007 CLS550 and I have to say it has the absolute worst quality paint of any car I've owned. My Honda Element with painted plastic fenders looks 10 times better.
I've heard the tale about the new water soluable paint but orange peal is orange peal and it has to be buffed out before you clear coat. A step obviously skipped on this $76,000 car.
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I have owned MB cars for close to 40 years now and one thing that has been common with them is that the paint has orange peel most predominantly on the sides. I recently parted with a 1991 560SEL with the older less friendly paint and sure enough the paint had orange peel. Unfortunately that is the way it is.

Someone here recommended wet sanding the car. That is a possibility but in my opinion you would be crazy to do that.

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I may be going out on a limb here but didn't they try to put a thicker layer of paint towards the bottom of the car to protect it from stone chips? If they did then this may explain the orange peel due to presence of much thicker paint. The only time I see "orange-peel" is when it is asociated with an inverted nipple on women's breasts which is extremely sad for me because then I have to give them the bad new that they have advanced breast cancer that most likely has already spread.
On the other hand if the banana peel exists on the bottom of the car for the purposes that I have described above then I believe that I could live with that.
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Someone here recommended wet sanding the car. That is a possibility but in my opinion you would be crazy to do that.
I think that is the only effective way to deal w/ OP. I had to have mine wet sanded and re-clear-coated, but it looks perfect now.

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So how long should the clear coat last?

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Clear Coat should never disappear in Six Monnths, you must be thinking of a Wax job which should be done every six months.

If im not mistaken, and correct me if Im wrong, but Orange peal is something that happens to the Clear Coat and not the paint it self. I could be wrong.

I have corrected this effect along with fish eye, by wet sanding (with a huge amount of research in the correct way of wet sanding) my car with 110% results and it cost me nothing but time. I was then able to do a very strengent claying and waxing and the car is still smooth.

Yes, they should have taken care of that at the dealer, but I will say this, my dealer offered to fully detail my car prior to purchase and I told him no....leave the car alone. I knew I would detail it my self.


OK after a quick search I found Orange Peal is something that accures during the painting process. I thought is was something that accurd to the clear coat. In any event, a realy realy realy good detail shop should be able to take care of that, good look.
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