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post #11 of 29 (permalink) Old 08-02-2007, 12:30 PM
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Not really. My snow car is Audi A6 with all season michleins - I don't have any problem driving in a middle of snow storm - i can easily pass slower traffic (SUV etc)
I can believe that, but if another similar car would come with Nokians, he would pass you without trouble.

I can understand that real winter tyres are not necessary everywhere but a 4WD car does not make them obsolete by default. You can get a 4WD car going through snow, it is better on ice too but when you have to stop the car, a 4WD car isn't really better (or worse) than a 2WD one. Cornering performance a lot better too.
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Not really. My snow car is Audi A6 with all season michleins - I don't have any problem driving in a middle of snow storm - i can easily pass slower traffic (SUV etc)
Oh come on, Quattro, 'nuff said.
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awd has nothing to do w/ stopping or turning on ice/snow. given the choice, i'd take the 320 with Blizzak WS50 snow tires everytime. blizzak + ESP + AST = amazing

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awd has nothing to do w/ stopping or turning on ice/snow. given the choice, i'd take the 320 with Blizzak WS50 snow tires everytime. blizzak + ESP + AST = amazing
He's in New England. They get snow as deep houses.
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Looks like dispute comes to brand names fight.
As I asked before, we need to clarify what kind of snow we are talking about.
For real snow, the only good is Unimog. With mentioned cars we can talk about slippery conditions, since any of them will not handle much more, than 4"of powder. I had to turn around out ML in about 8" of packed snow, since front spoiler was pushing more snow, than 4 big wheels could handle.
Saying that, I drove my 4-Matic thru snow storm in Wyoming and Utah (9000' passes}. Even with VR rated tires, I passed lot of semi-trucks in ditches or plain wrecked.
Than in the past. living in 4-seasons I spend long hours practicing ice driving.
So final conclusion? No matter how good tires you have, they will not make you a good driver without practice.
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blizzak + ESP + AST = amazing
If you study some reviews -ESP on slippery conditions can wreck your car.
That is why you have on/off switch for it.
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If you study some reviews -ESP on slippery conditions can wreck your car.
That is why you have on/off switch for it.
Link to said reviews?
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Link to said reviews?

It is in your manual. In mine ML it is page 207 "To improve the vehicle's traction when driving with snow chains, or starting off in deep snow, sand or gravel, or off-road diving, switch off ESP"
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It is in your manual. In mine ML it is page 207 "To improve the vehicle's traction when driving with snow chains, or starting off in deep snow, sand or gravel, or off-road diving, switch off ESP"
Ah, my manual is different so I can't find it, but I know what you're referring to. My understanding is that ESP would need to be turned off in order to keep momentum when you're going through rather deep snow so you don't get stuck...?

EDIT: It's page 223 in my manual.

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