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Question Mobil1 European Car Formula

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I can find fully synthetic Mobil1 0W40 here, but not this so-called European Car Formula. What I have found at WalMart, AutoZone and Advanced Auto Parts says it "meets or exceeds MB 229.5" specifications so I am not concerned about using it.

What I'd like to know it this: What are the differences between what I can readily find and the ECF?

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I think Mobil1 changed the names of the oils, no more European Car Formula, so just go with 0w40

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Thank for the info and link Kirill.

Did you happen to notice that the 5W40 that Mercedes is supposedly now recommending is only shown on the Mobil1 website as the one designed for diesel engines?

I have been anxious to change to the newer viscosity, and I don't mind buying a couple of quarts from the dealer. One of the managers at AutoZone said that "diesel variety" should be fine, but I don't like the sound of it. Plus, we looked on a bottle they had on the shelf and there was no mention of the MB specs on the label.

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Thank for the info and link Kirill.

Did you happen to notice that the 5W40 that Mercedes is supposedly now recommending is only shown as the one for diesel engines?

I have been anxious to change to the newer viscosity, and I don't mind buying a couple of quarts from the dealer. One of the managers at AutoZone said that "diesel variety" should be fine, but I don't like the sound of it. Plus, we looked on a bottle they had on the shelf and there was no mention of the MB specs on the label.
Hey, MM.

I've noticed that as well. I can't imagine that if Mobil1 went through the process to be certified they wouldn't be trumpting that on the label. Too, when you go to Mobil1's website, they're still only showing the 0W40 as appropriate for the FSS engines. Get your dealer to sign off that the 5W40 is good -- irrespective whether the spec appears on the label -- and then you should be safe.

'course we could all go to "all royal purple all the time" like the 210 AMG thread and enjoy 40% better fuel economy with non-spec products....

Take care and enjoy the ride,
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Hey, MM.

I've noticed that as well. I can't imagine that if Mobil1 went through the process to be certified they wouldn't be trumpting that on the label. Too, when you go to Mobil1's website, they're still only showing the 0W40 as appropriate for the FSS engines. Get your dealer to sign off that the 5W40 is good -- irrespective whether the spec appears on the label -- and then you should be safe.

'course we could all go to "all royal purple all the time" like the 210 AMG thread and enjoy 40% better fuel economy with non-spec products....

Take care and enjoy the ride,
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Thanks Greg,

I was hoping you'd see my humble thread and have a comment.

All I know is that my dealer said M-B is now recommending 5W40 for just about everything (as I understood the service manager anyway, and he said it was because it holds up better).

I also saw your comments about Royal Purple, and what sticks in my mind are the hoops an oil company has to jump through to meet the MB specs. I don't like that situation, but am hardly in a position to argue, or change that.

Again, I appreciate your feedback,

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Thank for the info and link Kirill.

Did you happen to notice that the 5W40 that Mercedes is supposedly now recommending is only shown on the Mobil1 website as the one designed for diesel engines?

I have been anxious to change to the newer viscosity, and I don't mind buying a couple of quarts from the dealer. One of the managers at AutoZone said that "diesel variety" should be fine, but I don't like the sound of it. Plus, we looked on a bottle they had on the shelf and there was no mention of the MB specs on the label.
There may be a bulk package of 5w40 that dealers get from mobil that is MB certified and not available in retail. But i'd stick with 0w40.
5w40 probably will work fine in your engine and you probably woudn't make a difference in 100k miles, nor 0w40 - so - i'll just stick with whatever is approved.

If you read 0w40 certification - it's certified for GM as well - so it's no longer "European Formula" -probably the reason why Mobil1 droped "European Formula" branding.

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There may be a bulk package of 5w40 that dealers get from mobil that is MB certified and not available in retail. But i'd stick with 0w40.
5w40 probably will work fine in your engine and you probably woudn't make a difference in 100k miles, nor 0w40 - so - i'll just stick with whatever is approved,
Something I neglected to mention is that my car is using oil. I thought the slightly higher lower end of the multi-viscosity (5 vs. 0) might help my personal situation. Either way, I'm checking my oil level frequently and adding as needed.

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My dealer used 5w-40 MB-1 when they did the service in December.

"meets or exceeds MB 229.5" is what counts.

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Cool

I was in the same boat a month ago when I did the B service. I gave up and just used 0w40. As they say, if it ant broke don't fix it.

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Musikmann,

Mobil1 0W40 motor oil is the approrpiate motor oil for your vehicle.

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Musikmann wrote:

>Hi Matt,
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>I am sorry. By that I meant the Mobil1 European Car Formula type motor oil
>that my friends say I need to use in my Mercedes.
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>What "ECF" requirement are you talking about? What does that mean?
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