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Hello - I recently replaced the water pump in my 740i, and since going through that I'm wondering if I should jump ship and go back to a Benz ( previously owned a '69 220).

I'm thinking of trading the 740 in for an S420, which is what I original was going to get until I drove the 740. I do my own repairs and I maintain a 190e for my parents and found the car not that difficult to work on, except for the fact that things are tight in the front of the motor(190 w/ 2.6).

I recently looked at an S420 on a lot and it appeared the water pump job I had to deal with on the 740, wouldn't have been that bad with a Benz, nor would replacing things that typically wear out on the drive belt. Can anyone comment on if this is an illusion or is it in fact easier to work on a Benz.

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Go for the S420, the pump is much easier to change, but they do not go very often. Basicly it is much easier to work on a benz than a bmw, that what i think anyway. My experiance with bmw has been tremendous, with water pumps going, thermostats, radiators, head gaskets much more.
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thanks for reassurance - I know this is a Benz site and subject to bias, but it sure appeared to me that the pumps and stuff on the drive belt where clearly accessible. Also I can't get a service manual for my 740, so thanks to BMW forums I was able to do the job.

Do you know if there's anything I need to look out for on a 97, 98 S420?
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thanks for reassurance - I know this is a Benz site and subject to bias, but it sure appeared to me that the pumps and stuff on the drive belt where clearly accessible. Also I can't get a service manual for my 740, so thanks to BMW forums I was able to do the job.

Do you know if there's anything I need to look out for on a 97, 98 S420?
I keep thinking the other way from you and have toyed for about 6 months now about getting a 735 E38. What are they like? Sorry pretty expansive people.
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Prices for parts for the 7-series are cheaper than the S-class. Look for a later dated W140. Also, check out the evaporator (you will have to replace this sometimes; very long and a lot of $$), transmission, wiring harness!!!, rear shocks, amplifier, window regulators, and more typical signs of poor maintanance(ie. leaks).

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I have a '79, 733 e23, which is my daily driver and hasn't been any problem despite having thermal reactors, the only bad thing is the gas mileage.
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Prices for parts for the 7-series are cheaper than the S-class. Look for a later dated W140. Also, check out the evaporator (you will have to replace this sometimes; very long and a lot of $$), transmission, wiring harness!!!, rear shocks, amplifier, window regulators, and more typical signs of poor maintanance(ie. leaks).
Haha, sounds like a W140 , it's when I finish uni in about 2 years I'll keep my W140 too.
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Hello - I recently replaced the water pump in my 740i, and since going through that I'm wondering if I should jump ship and go back to a Benz ( previously owned a '69 220).

I'm thinking of trading the 740 in for an S420, which is what I original was going to get until I drove the 740. I do my own repairs and I maintain a 190e for my parents and found the car not that difficult to work on, except for the fact that things are tight in the front of the motor(190 w/ 2.6).

I recently looked at an S420 on a lot and it appeared the water pump job I had to deal with on the 740, wouldn't have been that bad with a Benz, nor would replacing things that typically wear out on the drive belt. Can anyone comment on if this is an illusion or is it in fact easier to work on a Benz.

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I'm assuming you have an E38 740i.

It's really up to you. Some may find the BMW a little bit more reliable for this is the time when Mercedes began to dive into problems. However, the BMW E38 is an expensive car to maintain, but is minuscule when compared to the whole experience of owning one. Also, with your other option being a W140 S-Class, saying the BMW E38 is an expensive car to maintain doesn't say much when the Mercedes just might equally as expensive to maintain and repair. My dad had an E38 740i. I've driven it and I loved it. We had absolutely no problem with it, other than around 69k miles the heating core crapped out, which was replaced under BMW's warranty.

You may also find the driving dynamics of the E38 to be significantly better since the W140 weighs considerably more and is bigger.

In the end, I suggest you keep the E38 740, ESPECIALLY if you have option sand packages such as the wide-screen navigation and M-Technik sport package. That significantly increases the value of the car because it's more desired to the enthusiast.
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