|02-05-2007, 04:12 PM||#3 (permalink)|
Date registered: May 2005
Vehicle: '07 GL320CDI
Mercedes essentially invented the internal combustion engine and generally speaking the automobile.
It dates from the 1800s.
BMW arrived in the 1920s and was a very small player up until the 2002 took off in the 1970s. It was more into aircraft engines than cars.
Mercedes makes all kinds of commercial vehicles, trucks, etc. BMW only makes motorcycles in addition to its car lines. Mercedes owns Chrysler; BMW owns Mini. Mercedes is a large corporation with lots of stockholders; BMW is mostly privately owned by the Quandt family.
The biggest thing BMW has going for it in the USA is its dealers and its customers, because besides the fact BMW has more quality problems than Mercedes by far, its customers don't complain as much and its dealers are better at fixing them and therefore the problems are unknown to the majority.
BMW's image is the same worldwide, i.e. the "sporting" alternative to Mercedes.
Mercedes tries to develop a unique image in the USA, i.e. luxury/fashion car. In most of the world it's a taxicab and simply recognized as a conservative, solid car. This results in Mercedes being something of an embarassment to USA owners who understand the technical and quality stuff and probably results in so many Mercedes owners who are clueless.
BMW's racing heritage is very small compared to Mercedes.
|02-05-2007, 04:24 PM||#4 (permalink)|
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Nice write-up Kent. I'd only like to add that Mercedes seems to have better engineering and build quality than BMWs do. Plus, from what I've heard, their M3, M5 and M6 lines are no competition for the comparable Mercedes AMGs.
Mercedes Benz - Das beste oder nichts!
|02-05-2007, 04:29 PM||#5 (permalink)|
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Date registered: Feb 2007
|02-05-2007, 04:38 PM||#6 (permalink)|
Date registered: Jul 2004
Vehicle: 2005 E320 CDI, 1995 E300D, 2002 Avalanche
Location: Southcoast Massachusetts
Because driving a bimmer at night makes me think I'm in a submarine on battle station.
Mercedes is better because we have a kick arse hood ornament that glistens in the sunlight. You can also pretend it is a target sight.
|02-05-2007, 05:04 PM||#7 (permalink)|
Date registered: Jul 2006
Vehicle: E55 ///AMG
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
are you talking about the cars or the company?
they are 2 very different companies with different philosophies in the way they design & build cars. "Better" is such a non specific word, i have to question your level of intelligence. Only a dumbass would ask such a worthless question IMO.
BMW is a much smaller company, still a very much "family-owned & operated" company, and they can cater to the more selective, enthusiast consumers. They make more than $4500 profit on every car they sell. DaimlerChrysler is 10x bigger.
Gone but not forgotten:
2003 Honda S2000
1999 BMW 540i sport
1995 BMW M3
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|02-05-2007, 05:05 PM||#8 (permalink)|
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M-series vs AMG
Admittedly, I stetched my comment a bit. The dealer where I bought my Benz had an M3 on the used lot and I asked my salesman about it. He had driven the car and said it had limiters that made it rather tame and he'd much prefer owning an AMG, not being specific. What he owns is a C36 AMG, but he has driven a few others.
Please now produce the goods (aka BMW M-whatevers vs. the comparable AMGs).
Thanks in advance.
|02-05-2007, 06:02 PM||#9 (permalink)|
Date registered: Dec 2005
Vehicle: 1993 300SEL (Sold) 2001 530i
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
This is where the whole concept of market segments and building a car for those segments comes in, I bet that if you went into each section of this forum and drew up profiles of those who drive S classes v's those who drive a C or E class you would find some common trends, the same would be true for MB and BMW. This is why the brands are better for different people, it's a bit like someone when they buy some clothing they look in the mirror to see if it fits, at the end of the day rather than tech specs 0-100 times etc what will be the "better" car for a person is what fit's or what they can see themself wearing so to speak. Just like MB markets to both the C180 owner and the S600 owner to meet different needs so do BMW and MB, in my mind the company with the better car or brand is that which is best able to match product atributes to consumer needs and wants, in this case they both do a pretty good job, hence the cars are better for different people.
|02-05-2007, 08:19 PM||#10 (permalink)|
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Date registered: Jan 2007
Vehicle: 1985 190E 2.3-16
Location: Berkeley, CA
And about why I used the vague term "better" is simply because of how unspecific it is. I meant for this thread to be mainly for fun so I hope you do not take offense to my "dumbass" question. As for a clarification, I was also interested in what people thought of the brands for the cars they make as well as the companies.
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