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post #11 of 39 (permalink) Old 01-18-2007, 10:09 PM
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good cars

theyre good rides as long as you get a good one. Get a diesel, not as fast but better mpg and reliability, plus you dont have to run it on premium. Let me see, 190d 2.2 is good 190d 2.5 is more current, 190d 2.5 turbo is the best car in the world as far as im concerned. Afraid of high repair bills, arent we all 240d with no sunroof and roll down windows, there is practically nothing on the car that can break, 300d isnt bad either. hope this helps
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If you are seriously in need of a reliable car that fits your price range, seriously dude, look Japanese.

There are plenty of Japanese cars that are just as reliable as Mercs and are hell of alot cheaper to maintain and fix.

Get a Subaru, a Toyota or a Honda, all of which are capable of exceedin 200k on one drivetrain.

But if you are really set on getting a Merc, get a W124 or a W126, either a 300SE/SEL or a 420SEL, or a 300E or E320. You can find some decent examples for your price range, you just have to look and take the proper precautions.
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All of the above are great ideas: the Japanese brands mentioned above will be the easiest to own and all will go 200k+ with maintenance performed as per their respective owner's manuals. I have been there with 2 Hondas and an Acura; I sold Acura's for 3 yrs in the mid 90's & Toyota's for 2 yrs until recently. Have seen an example of at least two of all the above as well as mercedes with 500k+ miles on them.

I had great luck buying a '94 C220 2 years ago on ebay for $5500. It was being sold by the original owner & had just 69k miles on it in great shape. I drove it for 2 yrs & 25k miles 'till run over by a truck. Loved it & miss it!

If you enjoy driving something a little different, the benz will be more interesting; will help if you are a "car nut" & don't mind fooling with your car a bit.

'87 300E: sold after 11years @ 230k & still on the road somewhere in rural Tennessee.

'94 C220 with 93k totalled 10/06 by hit & run broadsiding monster truck: not a scratch or bruise for me
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"The most expensive car you can buy is a cheap Mercedes". This is in quotes because I saw someone else post that, and I learned that lesson the hard way.
I bought a 1998 E430 with 117,000 miles for $12,900. It quickly started to cost me a lot of money (during the 1st 12 months and 8000 miles) so I traded it for what I have now.
There is some truth in the very first quoted statement, but to be honest comparing the reliability of a W210 with a W201 or W124 (the most likely candidates for a tidy $8k Benz) is unfair. Many '80s and early '90s MBs are running happily around the world, with less maintenance and lower servicing costs than their immediate successors.

A W124 300D is almost certainly your best bet, failing that a clean W201 190D 2.5 is definitely within your reach.
Look for post-1990 cars as the interiors & bodywork should still look extremely tidy even if the odometer's showing 120k.
Don't rule out Japanese cars completely, as they do make for some good cheap commuting, but if you feel like you want to make a bit more of a statement, an older MB is a great choice.
Also, check out the E34 BMW 5-Series (early-mid 90s), they made a damn good job of that car.

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I have to agree with 190Evoluzione above; just because I had a bad experience, that is by no means a Mercedes "rule of thumb" - there are always exceptions to the rules, and maybe that's what mine was.

If you choose a Mercedes, just be careful. Ideally, the way to buy anything used is to know the previous owner or to have a good idea how they have maintained it. Most cars, if properly cared for, will last for a long time - I'm not talking about Yugos here though!

My Best Wishes and Good Luck.

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Thanks for all the support and suggestions. I don't want a Japanese car. Without going into a political post, I just don't want to support Toyota as the big 3 American auto makers are hitting hard times. If I buy a Mercedes, I am rationalizing that the USA has more even trading with Germany so it does not cause as much harm to American workers.

I was looking in the papers, and there are dozens of 300E's but only 2 300D's. Here are some of the deals I noticed. Are any of these cars good candidates to make over 200,000+ miles?

1991 Mercedes 190 E - $2300
White w/ Gray Lthr interior; 2.6 liter engine; 131K miles young; Automatic; AC; Power windows/locks; Sunroof; new exhaust; Alpine CD player; Great Car.

1997 Mercedes-Benz E420 Sedan,Very Clean & Well Maintained - $7999
1997 E420 Sedan. Smoke Silver with tan leather interior. 121,xxx miles and perfectly maintained. No accidents, no dings or dents, new tires, brakes, and heater motor. Cars runs and drives perfect. All options including heated seats and moonroof.


1983 Mercedes-Benz 300SD Turbo Diesel : WOW ! / RARE / CLEAN - $5250
1983w MERCEDES-BENZ 300SD Turbo Diesel ! : FINEST DIESEL of this VINTAGE ANYWHERE !!! Classic 126-Chassis Turbo Diesel (3.0L, IL5). SOLID - CRAZY POWERFUL - 24-29mpg !!! Absolute Cruise Machine ! Everything works - Cruise, AC, Brand New Blaupunkt ! Beautiful color combination. Mechanically perfect !

1997 MERCEDES BENZ C 280 - $5800
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It would be exceedingly beneficial for you to add your location to your profile for two reasons:

1) Location is a factor-- if you're in a part of the world where there are weather extremes- heavy rain, snow, desert, mountains-- it would affect the type of MB suggested for roadability in harsh climates and the need for differing types of service concerns.

2) Members may know if specific cars or resellers they can recommend you visit to evaluate specific models to consider - - or others to stay away from!

Undoubtedly, there's a Benz for your budget, but like any pre-owned automobile, your selection should be based on not only your checkbook, but a thorough inspection and review of as many records for service/maintenance as you're able to locate.

Good luck in your search - -

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if you have 100 miles commute everyday, do not buy mercedes. Buy toyota hybrid. Sorry.
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if you have 100 miles commute everyday, do not buy mercedes. Buy toyota hybrid. Sorry.

Hybrid Toyota? The Camry Hybrid has a list of $26,200. Note: My local dealer won't sell Hybrids for list, but we'll assume he can find one. The Camry LE has a list of 19,925. Note: My local dealer sells LE's under list. There's a $6275 difference in list price between the two cars. The only thing the Hybrid has that the LE doesn't is heated mirrors, and of course, the Hybrid engine. The hybrid gets 40 city/38 highway. The LE gets 24 city/33 highway.

If he drives 20K miles a year, 7K city and 13K highway: Assuming a best case scenario, with the Hybrid, he’ll burn 175 gallons in the city and 342 gallons on the highway, for a total of 517 gallons. With the LE, he’ll burn 291 gallons in the city and 394 gallons on the highway, for a total of 685 gallons. The Hybrid will save him 168 gallons per year. According to the fuelgaugereport dot com, gas is averaging $2.30 a gallon, but lets assume he’s paying $2.50. The Hybrid will save him $420 a year in fuel. Tossing interest on the $6K out the window, in 15 years he’ll recoup the difference in price between the two cars. If we factor in interest, the replacement battery for the Hybrid, and the fact that the existing Hybrid technology will be outdated, the Hybrid doesn't make sense to me. There must be something I'm missing here. Can anyone help?
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The analysis seems to be spot on to me.

The wild car as you say is the replacement battery pack, with a lifespan of 8 years, and it would have to be replaced at about $7000, to $8000, (I have heard) there is a dreadful expense. Wipes out the miserable $450 you saved in the Prius. Plus the conventional car gave more comfort and room over those years. maybe even a little safer also. Not such a great idea all of a sudden
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