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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 11-16-2006, 10:36 AM Thread Starter
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http://www.mercedes-benz-usa.com/s_class.php
I want to replace my E Class with a 2001 or newer S Class, and in my research on the good and bad I found this Web site. What is one to make of this? It seems from what he presents that only a fool would consider an MB today but I have yet to meet a Merc owner who's a fool. I realize these cars are complicated and technologically loaded, but that is true about all other upscale cars. So is it a matter of accept what's bad about an S Class because the good outnumbers what's bad, or is he painting a picture that actually would include a very small percentage of S Class cars?
I'll "hugely" appreciate any advice/counsel/warning.

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While the W220 is not noted as Mercedes most trouble-free model ever, I wouldn't pay too much heed to the rants on a hate-site. Sites like this are promoted by a single obsessed individual who cannot get over a bad experience or a poor decision. I recall the rants of one particular individual on another Benz site, disparaging smarts. He had bought one and was now on a personal crusade to slam the vehicle. When asked to present his list of grievances, most of his problems revolved around the fact the the car was too small and it was a diesel, things that were obvious before he made the purchase.

My advice is to spend a little time in the W220 section here at BenzWorld, and see what a more rational crowd puts out about their experiences.

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I carefully researched before I bought our 01' S430, this site and others like it were (and are) very helpful. I knew what to look for and I knew what questions to ask. Our benz was purchased going on a year ago and it has been a real pleasure to drive. Fast, powerful, uber comfortable (only my Volvo's seats are better), and trouble free.

We've had it in for a couple of recalls (no cost) and have done mostly PM type work on it (tranny flush, dif oil change- Airmatic relay replacement etc). The worst that has happened is the mass air flow sensor needed to be replaced. It's a consumable item though and at 46K can be expected to wear out. A new set of summer tires was the only other major expense.

As GS said, don't listen to these "I hate Benz" sites (or Jayhawk either ... Just kiddin Jay ), do your own research and remember, constant vigilance for small things that could lead to bigger things is key.

Having said all of that, I have been very pleased with the auto and plan on trading it in for a CLS in a couple of years.

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I would agree with GS.
I've seen even worse hate sites on BMW 750 (and actually could confirm some issues there) but each luxury car have one.
Fords and Chevys don't have hate sites to my knowledge. Why? Because nobody mind bad stuff on Ford and Chevy.
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Many of you must have seen this warning

Thanks, guys, very much. I'm well aware that many more people will complain about ____insert product name here ____ than praise it - in fact, I'd say by a wide factor. I can buy an S Class wholesale at one of the major East Coast auctions through a dealer friend, but realized that's too much caveat emptor for me, so I plan to go the conventional dealer route to obtain some degree of assurance concerning mechanical condition, etc.
Thanks again. Zoom zoom zoom - oh, I think that's been taken.

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We purchased a 2003 S55 mercedes less than three months ago. We are now being told that the new car must be started and run for 30 minutes every 24-48 hours or the battery will not hold a charge to start the car. This has been an absolute surprise to us as it was never mentioned during the purchase that the car would not start if left unmoved for a time. In the short time we have owned our new car we have had to jump-start the battery 5 times. Two of those times were after periods of 2 weeks and then 3 weeks of non-use. The other three times the car would not start after being left unmoved for 2 days-3days. A dealer in Tyler, Texas replaced the battery when we took our car to see about the problem. This replacement did no good. I did not drive the car today and will be gone tomorrow so will not be using the car. I will have to have it jump-started again the next day, I suppose. I would certainly appreciate some feedback from anyone concerning this new mercedes. Is this something to expect from a new $117,000. car?
From that website you linked.......could it be the alternator thats messed up?


I did a little reading...and a lot of the problems on that site are things like GS mentioned, things you knew beforehand....and stuff that basically dealer related.

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From that website you linked.......could it be the alternator thats messed up?


I did a little reading...and a lot of the problems on that site are things like GS mentioned, things you knew beforehand....and stuff that basically dealer related.
Yeah, that woman's car problem could be alternator-related or something's really drawing down battery power when the car is parked. Hard to believe that a good MB garage can't solve it, but maybe "good" and "MB garage" don't apply in her case. I think I'll track her down and sell her a big solar charger she can keep on her dash.

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That battery discharging experience would contradict ours.
Last year we left Ml320 and E320 sitting for 5 weeks with alarms on.
Both of them started without any problem after that. Batteries were 7 years old on both of them.
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I own a 2003 S55, the same year and model that "Ann" rants about. Mine starts just fine. If, in fact there is an "Ann" who is having this problem, any mechanic can readily measure the amperage draw when the car is off. A few milliamps, fine. An amp or more and something is wrong. From there you trace where it is going. While the airmatic may be complicated, a draining battery is not. FWIW, I had a 2000 S500 which was a perfectly fine vehicle. I put 20,000 miles on the car after the warranty expired and I did so with no fear and no significant problems. In 2002 I bought a GMC Envoy. Now that was a car you could hate. Bought it new and sold it 7 months later. Maybe I need the Envoy rant site.
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In 2002 I bought a GMC Envoy. Now that was a car you could hate. Bought it new and sold it 7 months later. Maybe I need the Envoy rant site.
Most likely exceeded bandwidth allowance a long time ago...

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