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i imagine that in this day and age, most of use with an eye for luxury items (such as Mercedes-Benz cars) are constantly wishing we lived somewhere a little better and more civilized.
Disagree completely. Where I live is probably considered a bucolic backwater to most of the people who live in the cities. I know how people on the coasts feel about Indiana. But we have excellent schools, low crime, easy access to lots of cultural and sporting events, a solid family-oriented community and unbelievably low cost of living. I love to travel, but I wouldn't want to come home to anywhere else.
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There's something to brag about.....


but in sticking with the topic....

how about ALWAYS being "expected" to drive.

but conversely, what about the POSITIVE perks ~ cops don't even bother with you cuz they assume it's an upper class well-off family man driving...

U see a hottie at a party & go up to her & say, I'm fantastic in bed- That's Marketing
U R at a party with friends & see a hottie, a friend goes up to her & says U R fantastic in bed- That's Advertising
U R at a party & see a hottie, U walk up to her & pour her a drink. U open the door for her, offer her a ride, & then say, By the way, I'm fantastic in bed- That's Public Relations
U R at a party and see a hottie, she walks up to U & says, I hear U R fantastic in bed- That's Brand Recognition!
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Disagree completely. Where I live is probably considered a bucolic backwater to most of the people who live in the cities.
Funny you should say that!
The current trend (for aspirational cityfolk) in the UK is to buy as nice a house, as far away from the city as possible. And then bore everyone to tears about how amazing the butcher's shop near your country house is and that 'you just can't get such good local food here in the city'.

I tried my best not to generalise in my statement, but was trying to make a point that people are now more obsessed than ever with property, as the world becomes more commercialised and overpopulated. I actually found Katjek1's original remark quite offensive...
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I actually found Katjek1's original remark quite offensive...

Even when making it offensive wasn't my intention at the time, I just realized that it has to be offensive.
I heard some things about London. It is crime-ridden city with huge population of minorities, but Policemen don't carry guns (is that still true?)
In US, especially California buying new E-class cost much less, than annual average salary. It is still status symbol, but what really makes "upscale neighborhood" is high fence, automatic gates and security guard checking the visitors. It is called "Country Club"
How pathetic is that?
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In US, especially California buying new E-class cost much less, than annual average salary.
I wish that were the case here.
Average annual salary is around £25,000 GBP.
That will buy you a low-spec C240...

There are relatively few Armed Police patrolling the streets in London. Most of them are positioned around points of Political and Financial interest, although the London Metropolitan Police has many Armed Response Units. Not to mention the world's elite force, the SAS!
The vast majority of Police officers i see do not ever carry or use firearms.
As for day-to-day (visible) crime, London pales into insignificance when compared to places like Johannesburg (car-jack central) due to the heavy Police presence and virtually the entire city centre being covered by CCTV.
However, it seems that young people are at the heart of our main social crime problems, and many UK residents feel that the law doesn't do enough to punish young offenders.

Don't get me wrong, it's a wonderful place to live (diverse, hard-working and constantly evolving) but very intense.
Extreme wealth sits side-by-side with extreme poverty - no gated estates here.
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However, it seems that young people are at the heart of our main social crime problems, and many UK residents feel that the law doesn't do enough to punish young offenders.
This is very interesting. I've never been there, but historically I had always thought of London as a very safe community (like Toronto or Vancouver). Lately I have heard a lot of horror stories about the lawless youth there. Is it as bad as it seems or is that a misconception? What's behind the seemingly very recent trend of young hooliganism?
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I don't claim to represent the masses, but where i live, the youth crime problem is now quite bad... No idea what's causing it, maybe longer working hours for parents, and easier access to life's little 'vices'.

As for it being a safe community:
Remember that most areas of London seen by tourists are prohibitively expensive areas in which to live - a Hotel-based visit will still give you the impression that the streets are paved with gold and that every Black Cab driver is your new best friend.
I often liken 'Zone 1' of London (as per our Tube Map) to Manhattan NY - most cityfolk
go there to work and socialise, but only the very wealthiest can actually afford to live there. Most Mayfair and Soho residents are wealthy bankers, diplomats and hedge-fund managers.
The areas of London in which most of us live are a real melting pot of rich, poor, young and old.

London is the least neighbourly place i've ever lived, so many people come to live here for such a short time, move house often, and high house prices mean that the proportion of rented property is absolutely huge.
I live with my GF in a 1-bedroom garden flat, 4 miles from Oxford Street (the centre of London), and cannot afford to buy it so i rent.
The average property price where I live is now an amazing £279,000 GBP
(Half a million Dollars) - this will get you a small 2-bedroom apartment.
In Mayfair, you would need 10-15 times that amount of money to buy an apartment the same size.

I told you it was extreme...
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Not bragging in the least. Just stating a fact.

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I honestly don't mind slamming the doors, but if it's excessive yeah.

I just hate when I park far away from everyone, someone just has to park right next to you even when there are 5 spaces that are closer to the door.

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Than you can always think about protecting the valuable car.
Our AMG ML has running boards below high door panels. It take full size pickup to ding it.
Than our "new" E300 is a beater for school runs. With bunch of dings on it already who cares about another one?
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