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Mercedes ranked fifth in fuel efficiency

How do you chose a car when you buy one? Being efficient is one of the first things you ask for, especially with today’s gas prices. And if efficiency is combined with some fun, when you have a perfect car to buy!
Top Ten fun and efficient car

* Tesla Roadster - EPA fuel economy: 135 mpg equivalent
* Mazda MX-5 - EPA fuel economy, city/highway: 22–25/30
* Mazda 3 - EPA fuel economy, city/highway: 25–28/31–35
* BMW 328i - EPA fuel economy, city/highway: 20–21/29–30
* Mercedes-Benz E320 BlueTec - EPA fuel economy, city/highway: 27/37
* Kia Rio5 - EPA fuel economy, city/highway: 29–32/35–38
* Lotus Elise - EPA fuel economy, city/highway: 24/29
* Honda Civic Si - EPA fuel economy, city/highway: 23/32
* Volkswagen GTI - EPA fuel economy, city/highway: 23–25/32
* Honda Fit - EPA fuel economy, city/highway: 31–33/37–38

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No V8? The MB V8 should qualify for the good fuel economy/fun list.

This photo is from a CLK430. The C55 probably has comparable numbers (that is, when the loud pedal isn’t being mashed THROUGH the carpet). The seven speed CLK550 and E550 too.
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How-come BMW with 20/30 is more economical than MB with 27/37 mpg?
They list Mercedes diesel, but not Volkswagen diesel. What is Tesla? Whole comparison looks more like propaganda, than facts.
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mercedes should be happy that even got 5th...my ML500 getes 14 mpg..the e class barely gets 20...


hopefully the next redesigns will improve??
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What is Tesla?
You haven't heard about Tesla? That's what car guys here in silicon valley all talk about.

Burn rubber, not gasoline.

http://www.teslamotors.com/

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Thanks Wolfgang. You don't mind if 'll be skeptical about electric car as well, do you?
You know that charging/generating energy from batteries is usually less, than 50% efficient procedure?
"135 mpg equivalent" ????
So they use diesel generator to produce charging energy for Tesla, because I've never heard about PG&E Schedule E-9 off-peak rate they quote there?
BTW are you interested in buying Ocean view property in Arizona?

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Kajtek1, there's a white paper on their site in which they show how it was calculated. I applied some of their numbers to the smart ev:

http://www.whnet.com/4x4/smart_ev.html

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You can tell lot things about the car, that can't be seen.
The GMC electric cars had good reviews, but GMC canceled the program and scrapped all the cars, saying the the actual cost was about $800,000 per car.
Would you be interested in buying Tesla even slightly cheaper?
So how about that AZ deal?
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They are selling the Tesla for about $100,000 at present, and the first batch sold out fast. We'll see how they do once they start delivery in 2007.

PS. I know GM does not believe it can be done. One of my neighbours is a long term GM battery engineer. We have great discussions.

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OK. assuming that 135 mpg equivalent is true, what I know is not, lets compare.
Mercedes 37 mpg Bluetec cost less, than $50k.
So difference in price is $50k.

To get the $50k difference worth back at toady's $2.50 diesel prices you need to safe 20000 gallons of diesel.
Without going into complicated calculation, it will take about a million miles to recoup the investment.
Good luck on that.
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