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post #131 of 295 (permalink) Old 11-11-2007, 12:46 PM
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The man said you >>>sound<<< like a shill which I agree you do and I said the same.
...and I said you >>>sound<<< like an asshole, which I still believe you do.

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They have just given you a TASTE of things to come.....find a reputable Indy MB specialist - better service at much reduced cost! That's why we call them "MERCDAD" - MERC Dealers Are Donkeys!
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Wow! I'm impressed that you had that much go wrong w/ your car. It sounds to me like you got a lemon! And I guess an extended warranty would be a good thing to have when one buys a lemon. I wonder how many MB's are lemons and how cost-effective an extended warranty really is in proportion to the % of lemons produced by Mercedes Benz. Calling me a "shill" is highly insulting--not to mention wrong--and I would hardly call it just a "disagreement" as you incorrectly characterize it. It's kind of like saying your car has "problems" when, in fact, it is a flaming lemon. Capice?
Lemon? What about the C230 we had? Motor Mounts, Fuel pump, Water Pump, Window Switches, and this car wasn't even 5 years old. Lemon? My neighbor across the street has an 2003 E500 who had to have his transmission replaced within a year of taking delivery, (and still slips to this day) not to mention the electrical gremlins that have plagued it. Let's see, my co-worker's 2003 E500 spends more time at the dealership than in his garage. Another co-worker, her husbands 2001 E320 cannot be properly aligned and devours tires (never been wrecked) window switches, and the list goes on, so maybe you're a bit delusional or cannot accept that MB quality has gone down the toilet.

Fortunately I have heard stories of improved quality but that has yet to be seen, one thing is for sure, Mercedes is NOT what it used to be. I am in the automobile design industry (Large Japanese OEM) and the general feeling among the designers is that Mercedes it trying to be too many things for too many people, and that has led to the alienation of it's core luxury car customers. Not to mention that the current crop of Mercedes Designs leave much to be desired when compared to BMW. The Current S-Class is a good example, there is no cohesiveness to the design, the fender flares cheapen what was once a very stately automobile, character lines going every which way, it's as if now Mercedes is trying to emulate BMW and Lexus and is failing miserably.

That many MB dealers are now owned by large holding groups and not individuals or families is affecting how business is done. Here in Southern California I think Walter's out in Riverside may be one of the last family owned dealerships, and it shows in their superior customer service and satisfaction. For a while, the service advisors at my my AutoNation-owned local MB dealership were giving me a feeling of them being sleazeballs who were just looking to pad their bottom line, in one instance I had new tires installed and they failed to notice that my tie rods and ball joints needed to be replaced so my new $700 tires started to wear unevenly almost instantly. I even had one guy tell me that I "really didn't need the dashboard clock do you?" He didn't want to replace the bulb! The good thing is now I am dealing with a service advisor who is very thorough and actually shows sincere interest in providing good customer service and resolving my maintenance issues.

Again, I have no problem paying their ridiculous service prices, what I do have a problem with is a supposed luxury car that is "Engineered like no other car in the world" constantly having stupid little things go wrong that don't go wrong in "lesser" cars.

Jayhawk, that you result to using profanity just shows your maturity and intelligence level, and you are doing it again.
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You get what you pay for. And you deserve what you get.
So you're saying MB owners should expect a piece of shit for the $30 to over $100k they pay for having a three pointed star on their hood?
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So you're saying MB owners should expect a piece of shit for the $30 to over $100k they pay for having a three pointed star on their hood?
OMG! Do I detect profanity in your post? How's your intellect??

I'm afraid you have a bad case of "buyer's remorse!" That is someone who will find fault w/ a car because it is a luxury car, and will never be happy w/ it no matter what. I believe another word for that is "loser." You are a person who should never own a Mercedes. I recommend you sell the damn thing and by a KIA--and make us all happy.

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OMG! Do I detect profanity in your post? How's your intellect??

I'm afraid you have a bad case of "buyer's remorse!" That is someone who will find fault w/ a car because it is a luxury car, and will never be happy w/ it no matter what. I believe another word for that is "loser." You are a person who should never own a Mercedes. I recommend you sell the damn thing and by a KIA--and make us all happy.

There is a difference between you and I though, you use profanity against other members of this board, and you continue to do so. We are several states away, how can you deduce that I have "buyer's remorse"? I do not regret buying the E320, in fact I love the car, even my wife says that she feels it to be "safer", "heavier" and more of a pleasure to drive, EXCEPT that there always something that goes wrong with it.

Who made you the Mercedes Owner Police? Who are you to decide who should own a Mercedes and who shouldn't? As far as being an "a$$hole" or a "Loser" as you have stated I am because I am more critical of the illustrious MB, "It takes one, to know one"

I surrender to you o great Mercedes Man of the Midwest I wouldn't have a problem driving a KIA, or taking public transportation, for you see, what I drive does not define who I am, nor is it an extension of my male appendage "Mr. S500".

All I am saying is that Mercedes is not the car that it used to be. I love my car, especially when it's not in the shop. Is that so hard to understand? Why do you take criticism against MB so seriously? Dude get a life!

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Well I'm glad we got that straight (are you straight?) "dude!"

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Wow! I'm impressed that you had that much go wrong w/ your car. It sounds to me like you got a lemon! And I guess an extended warranty would be a good thing to have when one buys a lemon. I wonder how many MB's are lemons and how cost-effective an extended warranty really is in proportion to the &#37; of lemons produced by Mercedes Benz. Calling me a "shill" is highly insulting--not to mention wrong--and I would hardly call it just a "disagreement" as you incorrectly characterize it. It's kind of like saying your car has "problems" when, in fact, it is a flaming lemon. Capice?
It is true that your particular dealer sounds like a good one, but you have extrapolated from that experiences that ALL Mercedes dealers are that good.

Most aren't.

Many are staffed with utterly incompetent techs working for Mercedes dealers employed under a system of compensation towards the techs (See Streetglower's illuminating posts explaining this in great detail) that causes them to be resentful towards their employers, the dealers, because of how they are paid for their work, and the outrageous labor charges bear no relation to the time and quality of the actual work performed on the cars.


And yes, Jayhawk, you are an undiscriminating and vociferous shill for Mercedes Benz, and even worse, for all the Mercedes Benz dealers, especially the really bad ones, and not a very good shill at that, in the same way you are a shill for George W. Bush and Dick Cheney and all their failed policies on BWOT .

You are a flaming shill for both Mercedes Benz and the President.

And the way you get rid of a "Lemon" new Mercedes or other new car is not
to buy "extended warranties" for them.

You hire a competent and aggressive lemon law attorney, and have the manufacturer buy the thing back (less mileage).

Shills like you should not address matters they are not competent to discuss.

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It is true that your particular dealer sounds like a good one, but you have extrapolated from that experiences that ALL Mercedes dealers are that good.

Most aren't.

Many are staffed with utterly incompetent techs working for Mercedes dealers employed under a system of compensation towards the techs (See Streetglower's illuminating posts explaining this in great detail) that causes them to be resentful towards their employers, the dealers, because of how they are paid for their work, and the outrageous labor charges bear no relation to the time and quality of the actual work performed on the cars.


And yes, Jayhawk, you are an undiscriminating and vociferous shill for Mercedes Benz, and even worse, for all the Mercedes Benz dealers, especially the really bad ones, and not a very good shill at that, in the same way you are a shill for George W. Bush and Dick Cheney and all their failed policies on BWOT .

You are a flaming shill for both Mercedes Benz and the President.

And the way you get rid of a "Lemon" new Mercedes or other new car is not
to buy "extended warranties" for them.

You hire a competent and aggressive lemon law attorney, and have the manufacturer buy the thing back (less mileage).

Shills like you should not address matters they are not competent to discuss.
Wow! "...extrapolated..." "...undiscriminating and vociferous..." I am impressed!! Where did you get those big words. I am sure you "borrowed" them from someone w/ half a brain...

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