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P8 and another future models from Mercedes Benz

Autoweek has made an overview of the future coming from Mercedes Benz.

The first one, actually the one which is very unclear at this moment is the P8. It is not sure at this moment if this high-performance, two passenger coupe will be produced, but there is word that the new Mercedes management has put the car back on the drawing board.

The P8 will be manufactured by partner McLaren. The P8 will feature the new 6.3 Liter V8 AMG Engine with an output of 510 Hp. It is very probably to debut in early 2008 and it will cost less than the US$. 455.750,00 SLR Limited Edition.

Another model coming from Mercedes are:

C-Class coming in 2007 (In Curacao the first will arrive in May 2007)
CLK-Class Coupe/Convertible in 2008
E-Class and a four door coupe CLS-Class freshened in 2009
A diesel version of the S-Class is due in 2007
The re-designed CL-Class is expected in late 2006 as the CL550, equipped with the new S-Class engine.
A two passenger SLK will be re-styled in 2008
The SL-Class will be re-designed in 2008
The R-Class will not be freshened untill 2009
A smaller crossover is expected to be developed on the new C-Class plattform for 2008 or 2009.
A Mild freshening for the M-Class in 2008

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Diesel S-Class has been available for several years now.

Not in USA, however. Probably never in USA.

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Autoweek has made an overview of the future coming from Mercedes Benz.

The first one, actually the one which is very unclear at this moment is the P8. It is not sure at this moment if this high-performance, two passenger coupe will be produced, but there is word that the new Mercedes management has put the car back on the drawing board.

The P8 will be manufactured by partner McLaren. The P8 will feature the new 6.3 Liter V8 AMG Engine with an output of 510 Hp. It is very probably to debut in early 2008 and it will cost less than the US$. 455.750,00 SLR Limited Edition.
The P8 should cost no more than half of the cost of a McLaren. Unfortunately, last I heard, the P8 was headed for the scrap heap. I hope you're right about a resurrection.

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Diesel S-Class has been available for several years now.

Not in USA, however. Probably never in USA.

Nor in Canada. VW seems to be the only succesful diesel car here. I have always wondered why the difference between the European and North American attraction to diesel. I saw a diesel Dodge Caravan for crying out loud.

A good friend of mine is in the Natural Gas business for fleets and believes the only fuel that can come close to the environmental benefits (?) & mileage of NG is diesel. Forget hybrid.

Is it legislative, price, or do Europeans just embrace the environmental aspect more readily than land-yacht-loving North Americans?
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Very little corporate knowledge exists with USA car manufacturers for making diesels. GM tried to convert a gas Olds to a diesel in the 1970s and failed miserably and turned off many Americans to diesels.

It's only in the last 10 years that diesels have become as nice as gas engines for cars--thanks to Bosch common rail technology.

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Is it legislative, price, or do Europeans just embrace the environmental aspect more readily than land-yacht-loving North Americans?
It’s the difference in fuel quality. Prior to this summer, European diesel fuel was much cleaner than what was sold in the US. Prior to 2006, diesel with sulfur levels of 500 parts per million was considered low sulfur diesel, and that’s what was sold at most US pumps. As of June, here in California Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel (ULSD) is the law of the land. That’s 15 parts per million of sulfur, same as the European standards. Prior to 1990, there were no sulfur restrictions in the US. Sweden has had 10 PPM diesel for more than a decade. 10 ppm is what the EU wants next. Mercedes-Benz diesel engines don’t run well with the high sulfur swill that used to be sold in the United States.
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Have to comment on this diesel thread...the new diesel formulation works well for newer diesel engines, however, with a lifespan of more than a million miles between rebuilds (this is class 8 trucks here) there are a lot of older diesels out there that don't particularly like the new diesel. Loss of horsepower and torque, shortened engine life are just 2 issues we have to deal with in Calif. BTW, if Calif is so "environmently friendly", why the he** can't we but a bluetec here???? Same goes for the northeast states...
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