Originally Posted by chinny4290
And I can 100% guarentee that it does share the same, or is at least based off the W210 Mercedes E-Class Chassis/platform...
I understand and have no doubt that their engines are powerful...but extremely inefficient...again my example with different displacements and different outputs.
Here's another example. A Dodge SRT-10 V10 is an 8.2 liter engine....8200ccs is alot of displacement. Yes it has alot of torque and is a powerful engine. But look at the BMW S85 V10 in the E60 M5 and the E63 M6. It only displaces 5-liters and gives off 507 bhp, which is 7 more horsepower than the Dodge V10 respectively, at almost half the displacement and half the engine size (305 cu in for the S85, 500 cu in for the Dodge). It doesn't help that Dodge also uses 2 valves per cylinder as opposed to 4 valves per cylinder, which better the mixture of fuel, and air for better efficiency. Yea, the S85 doesn't really have as much torque as teh Dodge V10 (383 lb-ft for the S85, 525 lb-ft for the Dodge). But why have all that torque when that torque would be better applied to towing things?
What also doesn't help is America's obsession with the theme: bigger makes things better, which is very false. It's a similar story with Harley Davidson motorcycles.
A wiki is a lousy source of information because anyone can write anything in one. If a rumor is widespread, the wiki regards it as fact. You may as well have sent me to your own personal webpage. In this case, even your own link proves you wrong. Earlier you clearly posted the 300C â€śsharesâ€ť itâ€™s chassis with the W210. Then you point me to a link that says the Chrysler LX platform is â€śbasedâ€ť on a W210. Thatâ€™s â€śbasedâ€ť as in a â€śsimilar designâ€ť, which is exactly what I posted. Am I nit picking? Not really. If two cars share the same chassis, someone could go to a wrecking yard, pull the rear end from one brand, and itâ€™ll work in either car. That wonâ€™t come close to working here. A 2001 E430 "shares" it's chassis with a 2002 E430. It doesn't share it's chassis with a 300C.
Iâ€™ll make it simple - a chassis consists of the frame, suspension, and steering. Since were taking about unibody cars, the frame doesnâ€™t apply. Lets look at the track. The front track on a W210 is 60.2 inches, while the rear is 59.9. On a 300C, the front track is 63 inches and the rear is 63.1. How is it that a car whoâ€™s chassis is â€śsharedâ€ť is wider on one vehicle than it is on another? At a minimum, the steering rack would have to be wider, which would make the steering different, which has to mean a different chassis. Look at this - one car has a wider front track width than the rear, the other is set up in the exact opposite. Flip flopping those numbers changes the way a car handles. Thatâ€™s not done with a shared chassis.
I have no idea why you brought up the Dodge V10/BMW V10 argument, but hereâ€™s a very simple answer: Different applications. I can, and have, turned faster lap times in an M5 than in a Viper. The Viper is quicker in a straight line.
â€śBut why have all that torque when that torque would be better applied to towing things?â€ť Thereâ€™s an old saying â€śhorsepower sells cars, but torque wins races.â€ť The races in question are quarter mile races.