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I think it is rather phat.. But I'd probably rather go with an S-class if I had to choose.
I think it's phskinny myself. In fact, I can't believe people are even trying to compare the two. Except that they're both cars, they're not in the same class. I like the VW Passat better than the LS. They are in the same class, IMO.

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The LS is still a copy of the S Class front and a copy of the BMW line in the rear, the profile in particular.

Good decision on your choice...the new S is above them all right now....:-)
GREAT Sig Pic Jack! You've been working on that a while, I'll bet. WOW!!

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I think it's phskinny myself. In fact, I can't believe people are even trying to compare the two. Except that they're both cars, they're not in the same class. I like the VW Passat better than the LS. They are in the same class, IMO.
Owning a S-class yourself you don't have a biased opinion?
Of course they are in the same class!

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GREAT Sig Pic Jack! You've been working on that a while, I'll bet. WOW!!
Thanks Jay...found a tutorial on how to do this (called OOB's for Out of Bounds) and tried a few. A lot of steps in PS (30) but I finally got it figured out. It acually took me about an hour or so with the step by step guide. I posted the full image on MB World and German Car Zone it turned out so well.

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Thanks Jay...found a tutorial on how to do this (called OOB's for Out of Bounds) and tried a few. A lot of steps in PS (30) but I finally got it figured out. It acually took me about an hour or so with the step by step guide. I posted the full image on MB World and German Car Zone it turned out so well.

In fact since you like it, here is the full image:

Thank you! That really IS a beauty!! It makes me feel like ducking. It appears to be coming right off the page.

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Lightbulb Lexus copies of Mercedes and BMW

I agree with deutsche280. I think the Lexus LS 400 series look like S-Class Mercedes. I also agree with asianml that they look somewhat like BMW.

I guess what I am saying is this: Lexus apparently does not have the design expertise to come up with a nice outer body on it's own.

Has anyone seen much japanese art for that matter? The little I've seen is pretty ugly. As as a race/culture, I don't think they are artistically inclined (not that the germans are either compared with the italians for example).

But, most of us like the Mercedes appearance, and if we wanted a Ferrari or Maserati we'd probably buy it mainly for it's style and performance - certainly not for it's long-term durability.

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I think you have to tip your hats more to BMW, from whom they copied Chris Bangle for the W221 and the Lexus.

I think BMW had the most influence on the W221 and the new Lexus.

For example, when the E65/E66 came out, it was the first car that was part of the large luxury sedan segment to feature "controversial looks" at the time. It had a fat butt, pronounced wheel wells, a high shoulder lines, and the rolling, kind of hatchback like C-pillar and short trunk.

Here's a picture comparison I made for another thread.



And down the line through history, BMW also has influenced other car manufacturers in terms of design cues.

For example, do you think Mercedes would have thought of circular headlights if BMW hadn't thought of that ages ago? It's been their trademark since they moved away from airplane engines to cars.

Even Lexus had influence from BMW...If you look at the new GS, they stole the "hofmeister kink," which has been around since the 1961 BMW 1500. the "hofmeister kink" is an angle at which the window takes at the C-Pillar.

Those are just a few examples.

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the m5 and the LS pic from the side view really do look quite similar, i guess the guys at lexus were like, "we're tired of copying mercedes, lets copy bmw now" lol next the japanese will be copying audi loll once lexus stops copying top german luxury sedans then people wont buy their cars, so i guess the japanese design team at lexus closly monitors wat the the new german designs that comes out and they try to come out with their "version" of it, and then they say that lexus is in the "passionate pursuit of perfection", more like pursuit of "copying" or "imitating" lol
I really don't think that's fair. If anything the new Mercedes S class looks reminiscent of many other designs. I find the BMW 5 series ugly to look at but the new LS has some style and pleasant lines. I can't see Asianml's links to 5 series looks. Anyway the 5 series looks have been so criticised why would anyone want to copy them?
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Thanks Jay...found a tutorial on how to do this (called OOB's for Out of Bounds) and tried a few. A lot of steps in PS (30) but I finally got it figured out. It acually took me about an hour or so with the step by step guide. I posted the full image on MB World and German Car Zone it turned out so well.

In fact since you like it, here is the full image:

I have to agree with Jayhawk. (we hawks stick together). That is the most fantastic car shot I've ever seen. If I'm not very careful I'm going to let NevadaJack alter my first impressions of the 221. But i'll keep fighting a while yet.
Have you seen the pics I posted on the General Forum of the new convertible S class. Hot news over here and looks a genuine runner. Imagine that Jack. Roof down. Wind in the hair. Girls skirts blowing all over the place.

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