Originally Posted by hawk20
Oh come on. This is so unfair. Nearly every major UK and European car magazine made the S class (220 model up to early 2006) the best car in the world. And most will do so for the new one too. The leather and walnut and general interior finish are as good as any from the past. I've owned Mercs since the early 80's and believe me todays E class is the best yet and the Dec 2005 S class I now have is a truly wonderful car. Every time I drive it, I marvel at its beauty, its refinement, and its power with effortlessness. Every day I look forward to driving it.
I've had a dozen Mercs over the years and only one was a bit iffy and that was just a strange gearbox fault eventually sorted.
Of course some get faults. Electronics and computers are prone to glitches -not just in cars either.
The new ML has had rave reviews in UK and Europe. I can't speak for US. Having driven it, it is so far ahead of the old ML (and its rivals) it is like chalk and cheese.
Nostalgia is fine but we can love the old cars without denigrating the new.
I see hundreds of these cars every other week. Of the ones you describe. The W220 is a nice car, a bit spartan for my taste, but a nice car. Definitely an S-Class. The W140 was the most lavish of all, but does not communicate with the driver as well as the other S's. But don't put off the 220. It seems to be a good car, and the interior is NOT cheap.
The C-Class is a POS. Almost every one I see, the center console creaks, the glovebox is broken and/or the center console box is falling apart. Half the electronics don't work. Very shabby build quality.
Same above with the ML.
The new S-Class I have not had the opportunity to drive yet. I will, probably in the next couple of months.
I subjectively think the interior is ugly, the speedometer readout and instrument display is clunky and inelegant (too many sharp lines, not enough conformity).
The steering wheel column mounted shifter is in the wrong place for a sports sedan. Mercedes hasn't used that design since the W108/109 S-Class of yesteryear. A time when it was appropriate as their cars did not have true bucket seats.
NO... NONE OF THE NEWER MERCEDES CAN COMPARE TO THE MATERIALS used in the older cars. THEY WILL NOT LAST! Its part of having an EPA MANDATED LIMITED selection of materials used for vehicle production. IOW, the materials used in production cannot be toxic to the environment, and should be made more recycleable. No new car can compare, in this respect, to the older cars.
You can't fault Mercedes on that. Mercedes dealerships still employ arrogance, and although I could afford it, I would never purchase a new Benz of any class from them so long as I know their true nature.