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ive always wondered why mercedes people are so uncool about things like this...

there is no reason to pull hair and have fights over whos car is better.

the crossfire is a nice coupe/roadster. it has an original design, is built well and i am positive itll be fairly reliable and long lasting.

style is a personal thing, so that isnt so easy to say "yeah!! youll LOVE it"... and i wont, youll need to like the looks going in. if you dont-- youll most likely not warm up to the automobile.

this is how theyre doing business now-- remove the corn cob from your rear, mr atlanta... theyre not going to change this to better suit your intense need to be better than everyone.

now tell us why you didnt buy the cl600[:)]

Crossfire is a total piece of junk. They tried to use some of the engineering from MB, although things didn't work as well as they thought. The SLK is nothing near the crossfire. Its not the point that MB people want to be better then anyone else, but you cannot compare apples to grilled cheese.


No corn cob here either, only a middle finger that I show everyone who tries to bust balls of MB owners.

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ive always wondered why mercedes people are so uncool about things like this...

there is no reason to pull hair and have fights over whos car is better.

the crossfire is a nice coupe/roadster. it has an original design, is built well and i am positive itll be fairly reliable and long lasting.

style is a personal thing, so that isnt so easy to say "yeah!! youll LOVE it"... and i wont, youll need to like the looks going in. if you dont-- youll most likely not warm up to the automobile.

this is how theyre doing business now-- remove the corn cob from your rear, mr atlanta... theyre not going to change this to better suit your intense need to be better than everyone.

now tell us why you didnt buy the cl600[:)]


Crossfire is a total piece of junk. They tried to use some of the engineering from MB, although things didn't work as well as they thought. The SLK is nothing near the crossfire. Its not the point that MB people want to be better then anyone else, but you cannot compare apples to grilled cheese.


No corn cob here either, only a middle finger that I show everyone who tries to bust balls of MB owners.

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iNeon - 2/12/2006 8:26 AM

ive always wondered why mercedes people are so uncool about things like this...

there is no reason to pull hair and have fights over whos car is better.

the crossfire is a nice coupe/roadster. it has an original design, is built well and i am positive itll be fairly reliable and long lasting.

style is a personal thing, so that isnt so easy to say "yeah!! youll LOVE it"... and i wont, youll need to like the looks going in. if you dont-- youll most likely not warm up to the automobile.

this is how theyre doing business now-- remove the corn cob from your rear, mr atlanta... theyre not going to change this to better suit your intense need to be better than everyone.

now tell us why you didnt buy the cl600[:)]


Crossfire is a total piece of junk. They tried to use some of the engineering from MB, although things didn't work as well as they thought. The SLK is nothing near the crossfire. Its not the point that MB people want to be better then anyone else, but you cannot compare apples to grilled cheese.


No corn cob here either, only a middle finger that I show everyone who tries to bust balls of MB owners.
Ahahaha! Never thought I'd hear you say something like that!

My same thoughts! I hate it, but I kinda like the 300, even though it's based on the W210.

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Crossfire is a total piece of junk. They tried to use some of the engineering from MB, although things didn't work as well as they thought. The SLK is nothing near the crossfire.
If that's the case, the last SLK (R170) is a piece of junk, too. They didn't use some of the engineering from MB, they used everything, but the body. The entire drivetrain, engine, suspension, ECUs, center console, brake system, most of the electrical system, steering etc is exactly the same as on the R170. The Crossfire isn't built by Chrysler, it's built by Steyr in Austria. That would be the same Steyr that builds the G-wagen, some of the W211s and many other things.

It's essentially a hand-me-down vehicle. When the R171 came out, the R170 lived on as a Chrysler, with a different body and a lower price.

I haven't driven one yet, but I've sat in one and I found it cramped, just like the R170.

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Crossfire is a total piece of junk. They tried to use some of the engineering from MB, although things didn't work as well as they thought. The SLK is nothing near the crossfire.
If that's the case, the last SLK (R170) is a piece of junk, too. They didn't use some of the engineering from MB, they used everything, but the body. The entire drivetrain, engine, suspension, ECUs, center console, brake system, most of the electrical system, steering etc is exactly the same as on the R170. The Crossfire isn't built by Chrysler, it's built by Steyr in Austria. That would be the same Steyr that builds the G-wagen, some of the W211s and many other things.

It's essentially a hand-me-down vehicle. When the R171 came out, the R170 lived on as a Chrysler, with a different body and a lower price.

I haven't driven one yet, but I've sat in one and I found it cramped, just like the R170.

I never said that last years SLK wasn't junk, i was only making ref. to MB and crossfire. Since I do not drive nor do i want ot drive either, I cannot say for sure. I have first hand info regarding the crossfire and it's not good.

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As has been mentioned, the Crossfire is essentially an R170 (1998 - 2004 series SLK) that utilize the 3.2L engine that was used in the SLK320. They developed new sheetmetal for the external body. If you sit in one, you immediately recognize the switches and controls.

Two big issues I would caution anyone seriously considering the car. One is that since everything about the car is Mercedes, and not parts that are used in other U.S. Chrysler products, Chrysler dealer tech staff are not going to be well versed on working on one. If you had a real problem, it could be difficult getting fixed. The second is that the car has not sold well, and because it carries big discounts, the re-sell value of the car is most likely going to be poor.

I would recommend that if the new SLK (R171 series) is out of your price range, you find a good used SLK320. The prices have fallen on that body style now that the new body has been out for over a year.
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One is that since everything about the car is Mercedes, and not parts that are used in other U.S. Chrysler products, Chrysler dealer tech staff are not going to be well versed on working on one. If you had a real problem, it could be difficult getting fixed.
Very very true. In fact, a gentleman I know takes his Crossfire to the local Mercedes dealer for that very reason.

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The Crossfire isn't built by Chrysler, it's built by Steyr in Austria. That would be the same Steyr that builds the G-wagen, some of the W211s and many other things.
Actually all the W211s are now built in that Mercedes factory at that place in Germany which I cannot spell, but they are all built there now.


Anyways, I think the problem is that a lot of people like to give Mercedes heat, so it puts us on the defensive.
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Actually all the W211s are now built in that Mercedes factory at that place in Germany which I cannot spell, but they are all built there now.

Sindelfingen is what you mean.

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RE: slk vs crossfir

I think that it is funny to hear others bashing the Crossfire. Daimler Chrysler is one company. The Crossfire is made for a different market segment than the SLK or the CLK are. They didn't intend for it to be a high volume selling car nor was it priced the same as a Mercedes.

The whole crossover concept between Mercedes and Chrysler branded was not to cause Mercedes owners to hate Chrysler owners. There was an attempt to make the Chrysler brand better by reusing Mercedes parts that were being phased out as is the case with the R171 replacing the R170 and the W211 replacing the W210. R170 becomes the Crossfire and the W210 gets incorporated in to the Chrysler 300.

The bottom line is that they needed to be made cheaper than the cars that they were made from. The base price of an SLK320 was in the mid $40K range where the Crossfire is below $30K. So comparing them is kind of pointless.

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