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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 07-28-2005, 09:24 AM Thread Starter
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I am going to an auction Monday that has a 1999 e320 wagon on it. As with most auctions there will be no vehicle history, thus it should and will sell cheaper. It has 110k miles. From the info I have found around the internet it seems these cars need trans replacements at around 100k, is that correct? What can I expect a trans to cost? Any chronic issues with the 4matic? Also I saw a lot of issues with window regulators. Any other specific issues that are chronic on these cars?
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My only Q is why consider any car with that many miles? There are many '99 Mercs out there with fewer miles, although I realize there may be circumstances that make this attractive to you, not the least of which would be a good bargain. Having said that, I offer this perspective: In Feb of this year I bought a '99 E320 for $17K, with 27K miles on it (Carfax vetted). The chances are excellent that a 27K mile car will have far fewer potential mechanical faults and if you do get the car for, say, $12k, it will cost much more than the difference from what I paid if you need a trans, shocks (if they're original, you will need new ones), other suspension pieces, brakes, etc. etc.
Also, a high mileage car ending up at an auction more than likely did not have a lot of maintenance in its "final" days including oil changes, tires, etc. Maybe you can see its service history if the car's books are in it. By the way, have you done a Carfax on the VIN? It's maybe ten bucks and it might avoid a headache for you.
Just my 25 cents' worth (inflation).
Good luck with whatever your decision is.

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I would bet this car will bring $6k - $8K tops at the type of sale. It is not open to public at all nor a standard dealer sale. It is a memeber only fee based Salvage auction and this is a stolen car likely as it has no damage. I am also bidding on a 2005 VW V8 Touereg with 918 miles and no damage. There is major risk in buying these car I know and do it all the time. There is only ONE reason to do it and that is serious savings. Some to the tune of 50% for a vehicle that needs nothing. This Touereg will bring around $25k- $28k I would bet.
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That makes some sense. I guess you know what you're doing. I'd still stay away from a 100K+ car because even after you fix the obvious stuff (if you intend to keep it), it's got the same mileage on everything in, on, and under it.

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RE: First post- looking at a 1999 e230 wagon

4-matic adds a lot of potential issues that only MB understands. If it were a normal 210 I would not be as concerned. They were pretty good cars, but getting one without a service history is probably like getting married on the first date!
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That would likely be a very high service rate!
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Question is Does the car have a good title or a salvage title? A salvage title will follow that car forever.
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Salvage title. Got it for $5,800. Has no damage. Have not got it hauled back yet...
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I guess from the fact that you "do it all the time" means this gem will showing up on ebay or it's ilk real soon?

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$5800 was a good deal for the car if it's clean. it's a great deal for a daily driver. But I have to make a point for those considering it for resale-buyer beware! Depending on the state-you may not be able to get full coverage insurance on a salvage title vehicle. It's salvage for a reason-Either it was considered a total loss for collision or a theft recovery that the loss was paid out before recovery. Either way the buyer in many states must have the vehicle inspected and approved by the local police department prior to vehicle registration. This will determine vehicle road worthiness for your local area. In addition, many states will rescinde the salvage title based on the degree and dollar amount of repair required to make the vehicle roadworthy. In this case, if the theft recovery required no repair-the state may rescinde the salvage title and issue a good title. However a carfax report will still show a previous salvage title, and anytime the vehicle is wholesaled through an auction the announcement of previous salvage title-good title now will be made. There are buyers that pay cash for a good deal and don't care. They'll buy this car for less than retail and carry liability insurance only and will be very happy with their purchase. Others don't want the stigma of a salvage or reconstructed title, want to be able to finance and insure the vehicle for collision. This would not be a car for these individuals to purchase! Don't misunderstand-I'm not saying that this guy has a bad car-I just want all to be aware of the implications of salvage cars. I've been in the used car business for over twelve years-both as a business and a hobby. I'm honest with my customers and don't try to hide anything! I'd hate to see someone buy a car for 12k on ebay only to have a nightmare having it registered and insured.[:)]
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