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Old 01-22-2005, 04:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What would the "ultimate Mercedes hot-rod" be?

I was thinking about this the other day so I figured I'd post a thread on it... basically, if you could take any Mercedes and do anything you wanted to with it- totally disregarding money, etc., what would you do?

I've got a number of ideas bouncing around, but the one I like the best is a 1986-1991 W126 sedan (doesn't matter what model as not much of it will be left anyhow) with the following components:

Engine/Drivetrain:
-AMG 6.5L twin-turbo V12 further modified to 1000HP+
-7 speed auto out of a new S500 (heavily, heavily reinforced obviously)
-4matic 4wd system off of an S500 or E-Class (also heavily reinforced to handle the monster engine)

Suspension/Chassis:
-Connect the front & rear subframes and add chassis bracing
-Replace the suspension with an active suspension out of an ABC-equipped car
-lower the ride height ~2" from the stock W126 suspension

Body:
-Custom carbon fiber and/or aluminum body panels where possible (not to change the appearance of the car, just to reduce weight)

Interior:
-Just transfer the entire interior out of a new E55 into it

Exterior/cosmetic:
-black paint, body cladding & bumpers
-all chrome trim left in place *but re-chromed of course)
-no model designation
-4 chrome exhaust tips similar to the new E55's
-18" chrome AMG monoblock wheels
-tinted windows
and finally...
-a personalized license plate reading "VIPR KLR"

Shake well, then go hunting for 911 Turbos. [:D]
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Old 01-22-2005, 07:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Can’t argue with that…

You’d have the best looking MB hot rod at least. Perfect strong platform, maybe an r107 but the big 126 S Class sedan would be stealthier, like a 500 lb Bengal tiger leaping out of the brush…[}:)]
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Old 01-22-2005, 08:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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RE: What would the "ultimate Mercedes hot-rod" be?

heh. Well my thinking was that it wouldn't look any different from a W126 which has had some cosmetic work done on it... And while none of the W126s around here are modified in any way really, a black Mercedes sedan with tinted windows and big wheels doesn't automatically imply that its got anything like 1000hp... and a 1000hp W126 that weighs say, 3700lbs (assuming the carbon fiber/aluminum could save enough weight to undercut the factory weight by 300lbs, even with the added gadgets) would run a 1/4 mile in about 9 seconds, possibly faster thanks to the added traction of the 4wd system. A 9s 1/4 is 2.5 seconds faster than the McLaren F1 and 2.3 seconds faster than the Ferrari Enzo. I like it... the ultimate sleeper; looks like an unassuming W126, but it's fast enough to suck the doors off two of the fastest "production" cars ever made. [:D]
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Old 01-23-2005, 12:31 AM   #4 (permalink)
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RE: What would the "ultimate Mercedes hot-rod" be?

Personally I'd rather do this using something like this as a donor car
(SANDORF sorry I didn't take your permission for using your cars image but I hope you understand).
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Old 01-23-2005, 12:37 AM   #5 (permalink)
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RE: What would the "ultimate Mercedes hot-rod" be?

*sighs* I used to have a '67 250SE. Never got a chance to get it running and get it on the road. It needed a lot of body work (the whole underbody was rusted out basically), it had no AC, and it was just too damn slow (0-60 in 13s? I think not...). So I gave it to my dad in exchange for his 560, and he then sold the 250. It was a beautiful car... I wouldn't mind hot-rodding one of those either actually [8D]
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Old 01-23-2005, 01:05 AM   #6 (permalink)
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RE: What would the "ultimate Mercedes hot-rod" be?

I believe that McLaren already have something !
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Old 01-24-2005, 07:07 PM   #7 (permalink)
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RE: What would the "ultimate Mercedes hot-rod" be?

Hey, anyone remember the late 70's 450SEL 6.9?

That thing was an absolute monster. Of course the suspension and brakes of the day, even Mercedes could barely hang on. And don't forget the loads of laughter you could inspire everytime you pulled up to a gas pump.

That thing had a monster engine with pistons the size of paint buckets[:p] Think of what you could do with over 400 cubes and a blower[}:)]

You need better suspension, but the frame looked like it was lifted from something by Union Pacific.

You would need a much better transmission and 3rd member. Shop something by Getrag or ZF and hope for the best. The standard MBZ aluminum would turn into an instant hand grenade with the boosted power.
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RE: What would the "ultimate Mercedes hot-rod" be?

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Hey, anyone remember the late 70's 450SEL 6.9?
REMEMBER it? My dad DRIVES one (well, when he's not driving the E55 anyhow...). Nice car... I've driven it before myself... it produces noticeably more torque than the 560 (as well it should considering the torque ratings for both cars) but the lack of a 1st gear (the 3 speed in the 6.9 uses effectively the same ratios as the 560's 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gears) makes it feel really, really sluggish off the line. I drag raced a Chevy Suburban in it one time and didn't pull ahead of them until I hit about 50... [B)]
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RE: What would the "ultimate Mercedes hot-rod" be?

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Hey, anyone remember the late 70's 450SEL 6.9?
REMEMBER it? My dad DRIVES one (well, when he's not driving the E55 anyhow...). Nice car... I've driven it before myself... it produces noticeably more torque than the 560 (as well it should considering the torque ratings for both cars) but the lack of a 1st gear (the 3 speed in the 6.9 uses effectively the same ratios as the 560's 2nd, 3rd, and 4th gears) makes it feel really, really sluggish off the line. I drag raced a Chevy Suburban in it one time and didn't pull ahead of them until I hit about 50... [B)]
Well, if we add a blower to a 6.9 the tranny would look like the latest offering from Frito-Lay in pretty short order.

Perhaps ZF or Getrag have a bullet-proof box that can be welded onto the back of this bear? Maybe something like the ZF 6 speed rowmaster they throw into the Corvette?
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RE: What would the "ultimate Mercedes hot-rod" be?

for you Storm
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