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Old 12-01-2003, 07:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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24" wheels for g wagon

hello, i am new to this board, and it seems like most people here are going to laugh at me for wanting to do this to such an exquisite off-raod machine, but i do...

i would like to know if anybody knows the offset i will need for 24" wheels?

will i need to worry about the wheels in the front hitting the brakes? (when my bro. bought rims for his ml55 he had to get a special wheel so that it would not hit)

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Old 12-02-2003, 09:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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23" is the biggest you should consider

23" wheels are the biggest you should consider for a G500. The extra inch for 24" wheels will require significant suspension and bodywork changes to prevent rubbing. You'll also put a lot of stress on the drive train.

It's your car and your money, so feel free to do whatever you want; but I'll warn you that the G-wagen is not built like an Escalade or ML. This is a 1979 design which was built assuming 15" wheels with off-road tires. Even the MB tuners don't recommend anything above 20" on this vehicle. Sell it and pick up something which has a proven track record of reliable use with wheels above 20". Besides, the G500 ride is pretty rough with the 18" wheels, I'd hate to see how it feels with 24"
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Old 12-03-2003, 05:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i know 24" wheels will fit without mods. but, i am picking up the giovanna 23" wheels...


i know 24" wheels will fit without mods.

but, i am picking up the giovanna 23" wheels another member is selling(picking them up saturday![:D])

it is a 79 design, but has seen upgrades since then

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Old 12-03-2003, 06:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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All righty then......


Hey, no offense, but you obviously don't know what you are talking about.

The G is a 1979 design. Sure, some things have been added/changed, etc over the years, but the design is the same fundamentally.

Nothing has been "upgraded" between the late 1970's and now that makes it easier to add larger wheels...Don't mistake it.

Good luck with the brakes, re-calibrating your speedo, and the ride of your truck.

Try not to hit pot holes, because those wheels are cast, not forged. Cast wheels will fracture if you hit something with considerable speed. This is a bad thing. It is possible that over time, stress fractures will form.
That is why the aftermarket tuners offer TUV approved, FORGED wheels.

Last time I checked, none of the big chrome wheel manufactures offer TUV approval for their rolling monstrosities.

And BTW, the TUV is like the U.S. DOT (Dept. of Transportation) except more stringent. Aftermarket accessories on cars in Europe and much of the rest of the world need to meet TUV approval for safety.

Jimmy really knows what he is talking about. Try and take his advice. He has been a G owner for more than a decade.

Anyways, happy rolling!

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Old 12-03-2003, 07:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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it did not mean it would be easier to fit the wheels in any way. i just meant the drivet...


it did not mean it would be easier to fit the wheels in any way. i just meant the drivetrain has seen some upgrades, such as brakes etc. that would not be stressed too much. i never said the design changed...

the wheels have a lifetime STRUCTURAL warranty.

as far as brakes go, i should not have any problems and the overall diameter is the same. the ride will be a little stiffer but as it sits now, i don't think that it rides excessivly rough.

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Old 12-03-2003, 08:51 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: 24" wheels for g wagon

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....i would like to know if anybody knows the offset i will need for 24" wheels?...
The proper offset isn't related to the wheel diameter as much as the width. Take your stock wheel, measure the width of the rim (w) and the distance from the inboard side of the rim to the mounting flange face (this is the backspacing - b).

Offset = w/2-b

The best thing for the truck is to keep the offset the same as stock. But it doesn't sound like that's your biggest concern. It sounds more like you want to fit the 24s and have the same turning radius and things like that. I'm going to lay all the personal opinions aside and in the "it's your life" vein, say that if you keep the backspacing the same as stock, things like max turning angle and min turning radius will stay about the same. So if your wheel manufacturer doesn't list backspacing, but only offset, you can solve the above equasion for backspacing and get b=w/2-O. Make sure you keep the "sign" of your numbers right. In this equasion positive offset has the flange INBOARD of the rim centerline, and negative offset has the flange OUTBOARD of the rim centerline.

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Old 12-03-2003, 09:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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wow! thanks alot. i feel bad you had to write that now. as i said above i am purchasing ...


wow! thanks alot. i feel bad you had to write that now. as i said above i am purchasing a set of wheels that are made FOR the g wagon and will be here monday.

thanks so much for everyones help!

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Old 12-04-2003, 09:05 AM   #8 (permalink)
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wow! thanks alot. i feel bad you had to write that now. as i said above i am purchasing a set of wheels that are made FOR the g wagon and will be here monday.

thanks so much for everyones help!

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What rims are you replacing? If they are 16" give me a shout.

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Old 12-04-2003, 02:15 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Dude post some pics of your G-wagen with the 23" on when they're install... What model ar...

Dude post some pics of your G-wagen with the 23" on when they're install...
What model are your wheels?
Cause i've seen a G55 on 23" giovanna attack and it was awsome...
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Old 12-05-2003, 07:03 PM   #10 (permalink)
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pictures...

i will for sure. they are the 23" giovanna attack. i will be mounting them sunday. the tires are pirelli scorpions

hopefully i will also soon have that new MTX RFL 152 sub and a 2000w amp. MTX is not the greatest but this thing is sweet!

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