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Once again stating the obvious; If the car falls into emergency mode it is a fairly blatant hint about something being very wrong. Drive it carefully and slowly to a competent MB garage. If they can't find anything wrong with the car being in emergency mode and all...go to another MB shop. The computer logics of the new Benzes are fairly idiot-proof, leaving fault codes all over the place saying whats wrong. Once again, emergency mode is a big, red, flashing sign accompanied by sirens and trumpets saying "SOMETHING IS BROKEN, SEEK HELP". Another seriously unpleasant point is the fact that if something implodes because of you not heeding the warnings, your warranty will be nullified and void. Any claims will be filed under "utterly stupid driver" and that is not an insult, but a warning based on first hand knowledge about how MB handles warranty claims based on recklessness from the driver. "
I'm just here to reply in reference to the problem of the car.
We are not sure if anything is actually broken in the engine, because we think it would be constantly in emergency mode in that case. The car is about 50% of the driving time in em.mode, and the other 50% it functions normally, we think it may be a faulty sensor, or just a fault in the computer itself.
Also there is no indication on the dashboard that there is anything wrong. The car its warranty has already been expired.
If it was so easy to just go to an MB specialist and let it fixed, we would've already done it. But, no-one seems to know about the problem, they say it doesn't exist, and if my father says to the specialist that there are other people who have the same problem, they denie it.
Why does everyone think we drive like 'recless' and 'racing'? It's not because I use 'push the pedal into the carpet', that we are an angry, agressive, recless racer. This sort of sentences were used to illustrate the problem.
The reason why I posted my problem all over the site, is because I wanted some replies from people who had the same problem. the answer: 'Go get it fixed!' doesn't help me a single bit.
I love everyone who is an MB-fanatic, and I have the greatest respect for difference in opinions, but I'd like to be asked for more info by people if they don't know enough, and not just get the answer 'get it fixed'.
My experience with diesels is that most of the time running problems are related to the fuel system. The first thing I would do is change the fuel filter. You would be surprised how much trouble that can cause.
I have also heard a few horror stories about the new CDi diesels from MB. Intermittent problems are a real bugger to diagnose. I think there are a couple of things you must accept before getting too frustrated. You are talking about a very modern and complex machine. I was not blowing you off by suggesting you take it to a dealer and get it fixed. The simple reality with cars that new is that they cannot be diagnosed without the help of the cars computer system in many cases. The other thing about a CDi is that we have no experience with them in the US. Many of the good technical guys here live in the US and would have no clue as to where to start. If an MB dealer can't figure it out with all of the correct tools and training, how can you really expect much help here? Again, I am not trying to blow you off, you just need to realize that the problem you describe is likely way beyond the help anyone here can provide.
agree with you.
thx for replying.
yes, I find it odd that MB didn't export the CDI's t...
agree with you.
thx for replying.
yes, I find it odd that MB didn't export the CDI's to the US. Like you said, MB technicians there will have a lot of studying before working properly on the CDI's that are coming in the next W211.
Thanks for the advice of the fuel filter, I'll tell it to my dad.
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agree with you.
thx for replying.
yes, I find it odd that MB didn't export the CDI's
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agree with you.
thx for replying.
yes, I find it odd that MB didn't export the CDI's to the US. Like you said, MB technicians there will have a lot of studying before working properly on the CDI's that are coming in the next W211.
Thanks for the advice of the fuel filter, I'll tell it to my dad.
best regards,
matteus
They are now sending 270cdi's in the Sprinter vans but nothing for cars yet. Seems our diesel fuel isn't as good as yours yet.
hehe,
maybe.
My dad testdrove the 316CDI (270CDI engine, 156BHP downtuned) sprinter ...
hehe,
maybe.
My dad testdrove the 316CDI (270CDI engine, 156BHP downtuned) sprinter van with the new sequential 6-speed gearbox. The van had double reartires, and he said it had so much power and it accelerated so fast, it would spin the rear wheel like hell in first and second gear! (In the wet that is, but hey, still a van[8D])
That is one fast van!
I also read about chiptuning it to 190-210BHP!
result: 0-60: 9-10secs, topspeed: near 120-125mph!!!!!!!! WITH A VAN! that is sick I think, although nice if you live in europe and have to make trips to Germany a lot[;)][}:)]. heheh.
I am sorry that I referred you to the G Forum; I certainly never envisioned what took place. Please accept my apology.
My attempt at getting you to the G Forum was not to get help from North American posters, but rather G owners from Europe or the Middle East who might have background or experience with a CDI engine. As I posted in the W220 Forum, CDI's are just coming to North America, with Dodge getting it first in their version of the Sprinter, and MBUSA is supposedly bringing it in on E-classes later this year for MY2004.
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...And the Sprinter 270CDI has been detuned from the European version ...
Actually, I think that all Sprinters have the detuned 270CDI motor in them. Or, viewed the other way around, the passenger cars have a more highly tuned version.
The poor fuel we have creates the potential for problems with the CDI high pressure pump and exhaust systems. Neither problem is affected by the tuning or detuning of the engine.
The reason for detuning the Sprinter engines is to maximize engine lifetime in commercial service. Performing regular runs to redline while pulling a fully loaded truck will kill any highly tuned engine. Detuning the motor has the effect of gently lifting the drivers lead foot off of the accellerator.
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...And the Sprinter 270CDI has been detuned from the European version ...
Actually, I think that all Sprinters have the detuned 270CDI motor in them. Or, viewed the other way around, the passenger cars have a more highly tuned version.
The poor fuel we have creates the potential for problems with the CDI high pressure pump and exhaust systems. Neither problem is affected by the tuning or detuning of the engine.
The reason for detuning the Sprinter engines is to maximize engine lifetime in commercial service. Performing regular runs to redline while pulling a fully loaded truck will kill any highly tuned engine. Detuning the motor has the effect of gently lifting the drivers lead foot off of the accellerator.
I have it from a relatively reliable source that one of the Registered Importers has been trying to modify a G270CDI to pass the EPA tests; and cannot do it. MB has done something to the engine in the Sprinters; and isn't telling folks what it is.
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