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Old 02-12-2001, 03:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
Brent
 
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inclimometer

I'm not even sure that is a word but couldn't figure out how to put it. Mitsibishi used to mount a device on the dash of the Montero that displayed the degree of side lean. I've always wondered how close I am to the factory spec for side hill lean. I do recall riding with Torsten at G-Wgagen USA's test track. They have a section to demonstrate how far the G will lean without tipping, the pucker factor was VERY high, he had it up on the side slope and was rocking back and forth in his seat to demonstrate that we had a way to go before it was unstable. I have had more than one passenger brace themselves for the roll that never happened. It would be neat to look at a gauge for reference. Has anybody seen such a device? Maybe it could be had from Mitsu, I recall it looked like an add on to that trucks dash. <br><p>
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Old 02-12-2001, 04:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: inclimometer

Installing an inclinometer is not very difficult (unless you're looking at some "electronic" digital display device) -- just go to a good boating store (West Marine, BoatUS, etc.) and ask for one, as they're part of the normal complement of instruments for racing sailboats ("heeling"). [BTW, if you want a bit more difficulty, there are "electronic" inclinometers for sailboats, too.]<br> The big question is, however, WHAT IS THE LIMIT of roll for the GWagen. What good is having an inclinometer if you don't know where your limit is? I think that I once read that it's about 40 degrees, but I wouldn't want to put my G "on the line" (so to speak) betting that my vague recollection is right.<br> If you ever find out what Torsten recommends, please post it so we all find out.<br> Best regards<br><p>
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Old 02-12-2001, 05:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Land Rover offers the same "fun ride"

re: "...I do recall riding with Torsten at G-Wgagen USA's test track. They have a section to demonstrate how far the G will lean without tipping, the pucker factor was VERY high, he had it up on the side slope and was rocking back and forth in his seat to demonstrate that we had a way to go before it was unstable. I have had more than one passenger brace themselves for the roll that never happened...."<p>BTW, it appears that most (if not all) Land Rover dealerships by now offer a track (a carefully laid out pile of rocks, cemented in place) that demonstrates not only their approach, departure and "breakover" angles, but also their lateral stability -- a portion where the LR leans so far over that you swear you're going to roll (and you don't). Of course, the salesman is driving the car, not the prospective buyer.<br><br><p>
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Old 02-12-2001, 05:04 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: inclimometer

Not sure about an honest to gosh MB version, but they had a unit similar to what you describe as an option on lots of Japanese 4wds (Toys and Suzys come to mind at least). Hit the local foreign car junk yard and you'd probably find one. The ones I've seen display pitch as well as roll. The Toy one my buddy has in his 4-runner also displays a pretty accurate (insert word here meaining "distance above sea level" - word was rejected by the BBS because three letters in the middle of the word are usable as a slang term for part of the female anatomy. Personal opinions of the value of such vigorous censorship withheld...)<p>Or, if you want an alternative, get a "lev-o-gage" available at any 4wd shop. It's a spirit-filled tube with a U-shape, graduated in degrees, with a steel ball inside. The ball liines up with the reading of your degree of tilt.<p>-Dave G.<br><p>
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Old 02-12-2001, 05:06 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Land Rover offers the same "fun ride"

"....Of course, the salesman is driving the car, not the prospective buyer....."<p>The most highly tilted section of track is at 38 degrees. LRs can do 42. But there is SERIOUS pucker factor at 38.<p>Anybody know specs for a stock Gwagen on 32" tires?<p>-Dave G.<br><br><p>
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Old 02-12-2001, 05:09 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: inclimometer

re: "...insert word here meaining "distance above sea level" - word was rejected by the BBS because three letters in the middle of the word are usable as a slang term for part of the female anatomy. Personal opinions of the value of such vigorous censorship withheld..."<p>Dave,<br> Are you sure you were spelling ALTIMETER correctly? I keep studying the word and can't find any component that would fit your description.<p><br><br><p>
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Old 02-12-2001, 05:27 AM   #7 (permalink)
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"Red-line" on Inclinometer??

re: "...LRs can do 42....Anybody know specs for a stock Gwagen on 32" tires?..."<p>Dave,<br> Do you recall anything about 40 deg or so (as I noted in another post) -- I have this vague recollection of reading a figure in something about G's. Sound familiar?<br> Regards,<br><p>
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Old 02-12-2001, 06:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
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: re: "...LRs can do 42....Anybody know specs for a stock Gwagen on 32" tires?..."<p>: Dave,<br>: Do you recall anything about 40 deg or so (as I noted in another post) -- I have this vague recollection of reading a figure in something about G's. Sound familiar?<br>: Regards,<p><p>Twice today I have had to re type a post because it didn't show up arrrrgh! The Gwagen brochure from Europa (G500) lists appraoch as 36 deg., departure as 27 deg., then lists lateral stability to 54% and climbing ability to 80%. I'm not sure how to translate that into degrees. This would be on approx. 31" tires. <p><br><p>
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Old 02-12-2001, 09:37 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: redline is WAY up there

: : re: "...LRs can do 42....Anybody know specs for a stock Gwagen on 32" tires?..."<p>: : Dave,<br>: : Do you recall anything about 40 deg or so (as I noted in another post) -- I have this vague recollection of reading a figure in something about G's. Sound familiar?<br>: : Regards,<p><br>: Twice today I have had to re type a post because it didn't show up arrrrgh! The Gwagen brochure from Europa (G500) lists appraoch as 36 deg., departure as 27 deg., then lists lateral stability to 54% and climbing ability to 80%. I'm not sure how to translate that into degrees. This would be on approx. 31" tires. <p><p>I found a conversion that lists a 54% grade as a 48.6 degree angle. So the conversion for climbing ability is a 72 degree angle. 18 deg. shy of vertical???? That would be a site. I know the G is very resistant to tipping but 48 degrees is crazy. Am I using the numbers correctly?<p><br><p>
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Old 02-12-2001, 10:11 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: inclimometer

Hello anglers,<p>100 % = 45°<p>460 G with 205 R 16<p>approach 40°<br>departure 40°<br>tilt 30°<p>taken off a 1984 brochure for RHD 280/300.<p>Best of luck - frank<p><br><p>
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