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#1 ·
Hi all

My clutch slave cylinder (mounted to the side of the transmission) just went out. Does anyone have a part number that you can relay to me? I am away from home and my EPC. I have a 5 speed #71742200007569 transmission (5-speed by Getrag, used for all 460, one piece gear box and bell housing, aloy)(info from Haralds site). Will a slave cylinder from a Unimog or a 80's model 240D for that matter be the same?

Any help is much appreciated!
Thanks
Mark
 
#2 ·
inkblotz - 8/3/2005 2:41 PM

Hi all

My clutch slave cylinder (mounted to the side of the transmission) just went out. Does anyone have a part number that you can relay to me? I am away from home and my EPC. I have a 5 speed #71742200007569 transmission (5-speed by Getrag, used for all 460, one piece gear box and bell housing, aloy)(info from Haralds site). Will a slave cylinder from a Unimog or a 80's model 240D for that matter be the same?

Any help is much appreciated!
Thanks
Mark
I used to replace about one a year on my 280GE 5-speed. There's a repair kit available; and the slave or repair kit are unique to the Getrag.

I am pretty sure the numbers are as follows:

Complete Cylinder: A.001.295.16.07
Repair Kit: A.000.290.44.67
 
#3 ·
Without the VIN its difficult to be accurate.

There are two part#s that appear. A0012955107 with fording abilities and A2012900311 with no fording abilities.

The former is G specific but the latter is found on
Europe CAR FG 107 042
Europe CAR GM 717 412 416 418
Europe CAR FG 201 024 029
Europe CAR FG 201 018 024
Europe CAR FG 201 029
Europe CAR FG 201 018 023 024 122
Europe CAR FG 201 028 126
Europe CAR FG 201 029
North America CAR FG 201 029
Europe CAR FG 201 035
Europe CAR FG 201 036
Europe CAR FG 124 020 021 120
Europe CAR FG 124 041
Europe CAR FG 124 040 060
Europe CAR FG 124 080 081 180
Europe CAR FG 123 026 028 033 130 132
Europe CAR FG 123 220 223
Europe CAR FG 123 120 123 125
Europe CAR FG 123 053
Europe CAR FG 123 243
Europe G-WAGON FG 461 450 451 452 454 455 458 459
Europe G-WAGON FG 461 403
Europe CAR FG 123 003 105
Europe CAR FG 123 086 093 190
Europe CAR FG 123 200 280 283
Europe CAR FG 123 102 103 183
Europe G-WAGON FG 460 317 328 329 337 338
Europe G-WAGON FG 461 317 318
Europe CAR FG 201 022 023 024 028 029 122 126
Europe CAR FG 124 019
Europe CAR FG 124 120
Europe CAR FG 124 079
Europe CAR FG 202 120 121 122
North America CAR FG 201 024 028 029 122 126
Europe CAR FG 201 034
Europe CAR FG 124 020 021 120 125 226 230
Europe CAR FG 124 023 026 130
Europe CAR FG 124 030
Europe CAR FG 124 003 004 007 080 081 083 090 105 180 185 190 290
Europe CAR FG 124 043 050
Europe CAR FG 126 020 024 025
North America CAR FG 124 026 030
North America CAR FG 201 034
Europe G-WAGON FG 461 227 229 238 239 249 266 267
Europe G-WAGON FG 461 323 328 329 337 338 341 367 368
North America CAR FG 123 123
Japan CAR FG 107 042
North America CAR GM 717 412 416 418
Japan CAR GM 717 412 416 418
Japan CAR FG 201 036
Japan CAR FG 123 026 028 033 130 132
Japan CAR FG 123 220 223
Japan CAR FG 123 120 123 125
Japan CAR FG 123 053
Japan CAR FG 123 243
Japan CAR FG 123 003 105
Japan CAR FG 123 086 093 190
Japan CAR FG 123 200 280 283
Japan CAR FG 123 102 103 183
Japan G-WAGON FG 460 317 328 329 337 338
Japan G-WAGON FG 461 323 328 329 337 338 341 367 368

Take your pick.
 
#5 ·
inkblotz - 8/3/2005 3:34 PM

Ernest T: My VIN # is WDB46031217026136
Thanks for your help. Let me know if you can narrow it down a bit from this?

Dutch

Are the slave cylinders the same on a 280 and a 300gd? Thanks for your response

Mark
Mark,

I know that, since you have a turbo motor, it's not OE; but what about the tranny?

Just entered your VIN and answered my question. Your tranny isn't OE either; so I can't answer your question about 280GE vs 300GD interchangeability. Sorry.

The P/N's provided in my earlier post were for a 5-speed Getrag in my old 280GE.
 
#7 ·
inkblotz - 8/3/2005 3:46 PM

So from the vin and the trans number we cannot determine which slave cylinder would go with this transmission?

[V]
Your tranny doesn't match your VIN (EPC says you have a 711 tranny from the factory); and the EPC only works with VIN/chassis numbers. There's no way to back into the tranny number without the VIN.

Dealers have a different setup and may be able to back track it for you.
 
#10 ·
Go With The Majority

cashieu - 8/3/2005 4:28 PM

Mine is an 85 230 GE with 5-speed. I replaced the slave cyl last fall. Number 0012955107. $172.17 from Europa last year.

My guess would be that the slave cylinder would match the transmission regardless of the engine. JMHO.

Bruce
Mark,

I'd go with the majority here. Ignore those numbers I posted earlier.

The 4-speed slave has the mounting bolts at 12 & 6 o'clock. The 5-speed has mounting bolts at 12 & 5 - slightly offset.
 
#12 ·
inkblotz - 8/3/2005 2:38 PM

Ernest T I believe you hit the right number with the A2012900311. It lists for a 5 speed transmission. So it should be a good part number for it.

Thanks
Mark

If anybody else has feedback let me know.


If you go to Rusty's
http://parts.*/start.wws

and type in 2012900311 as a part number you get a cylinder that is an ATE I3010-18088 and is listed for cars such as a 78 240D. Click on the pic to enlarge it. I sure looks like a cross for my slave cylinder listed earlier altho mine is an ***. That ATE number is as little as $42.33 on the net (for instance Autohaus which is a sponsor). Sure would be nice if it was a direct replacement. Alot cheaper than from Europa for the one I bought. If you get brave and try one, please let us all know!

Bruce
 
#13 ·
inkblotz - 8/3/2005 12:41 PM

Hi all

My clutch slave cylinder (mounted to the side of the transmission) just went out. Does anyone have a part number that you can relay to me? I am away from home and my EPC. I have a 5 speed #71742200007569 transmission (5-speed by Getrag, used for all 460, one piece gear box and bell housing, aloy)(info from Haralds site). Will a slave cylinder from a Unimog or a 80's model 240D for that matter be the same?

Any help is much appreciated!
Thanks
Mark

One more thing. Here is a kit for the slave cylinder for the 240D. About $20.

http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductDetail.aspx?mfrcode=BAR&mfrpartnumber=0710558

Dutch could tell us if it looks like the same parts as the G kit. It is a 15/16" bore and the other pic referenced above makes the cylinder look right. IF the cylinder from the 240D is right (or even not) this kit may very well work. It has the rubber wiper and the rubber seal at least.

Bruce
 
#15 ·
cashieu - 8/3/2005 5:52 PM


Dutch could tell us if it looks like the same parts as the G kit. It is a 15/16" bore and the other pic referenced above makes the cylinder look right. IF the cylinder from the 240D is right (or even not) this kit may very well work. It has the rubber wiper and the rubber seal at least.

Bruce
The kit looks similar, but the real critical part is the rubber flanged cup that goes in the back of the bore to actuate the plunger.

I couldn't get the link for the cylinder itself to open in the other post. The trick is the offset on the mounting bolt holes. The 5-speed is 12 & 5 o'clock - not 12 & 6.
 
#16 ·
Sorry for the bad link. This should work to get the pic of the cylinder. The offset in the mount looks like my G cylinder, but of course I cant measure actual dimensions.

www*parts*mbz*org (replace the * with . - for some reason when I type it in with the . here the link gets changed when posted).


type the part number 2012900311 into the search block then on the page that comes up, click on the pic for a larger image.

Bruce
 
#18 ·
New slave cylinder in place works perfectly! The part # A2012900311 that Ernest T provided was the correct one. I discovered that the transmission, even though not original to my vehicle IS a G-wagon 5-speed transmission. I am basing this on a long number stamped on the side of the transmission which begins with 460----. I will retrieve this number and post it for a reference for forum members.

Thanks
Mark[:D]
 
#19 ·
Hi Mark,

That's great news! Where did you get the cylinder, perhaps Rusty's or Autohaus? From the pics it sure looked like a direct replacement for the one I bought last Fall from Europa, but without dimensions its hard to know. Glad you took the chance and tried it. When you had them both side-by-side could you tell any difference?

Bruce
 
#20 ·
No difference what so ever. Dutch's suggestion about the 12:00, 5:00 offset was absolutely right. I ended up buying it at the local Mercedes dealer for $60.

Another interesting tidbit was that I did find it in my EPC when I got home. It was under the heading: Chassis: WDB460312, Body:460513, VB: GL275, Model:717.422. The 717.422 5-speed transmission was listed there. Also when I was replacing the Slave cylinder I noticed a long number stamped on the case of the transmission. I failed to right it down however (will get it next weekend) it started with 460. So my conclusion was that it WAS a transmission used on Gs and I didn't have a 5-speed tranny transplanted from a car.

This 5-speed plus the 5-cyl Turbo diesel makes for one fun fast ride. I am having a blast with it.

[:)] Mark
 
#21 ·
Mark,

Thanks for the info on the interchangability. Its really nice to know that next time I need one I can buy one for the 240D at a MB dealer or Autohaus rather than have to pay $170 or so like I did last fall. Did you happen to notice the brand name embossed into the cylinder body? Mine is a *** but the ones at Autohaus are listed as ATE with the same number you used.

Now if we could only find a cross reference for a cheap alternative for the clutch master cylinders. I've checked the pics of those from the MB sedan and they dont even look close.

I've got an 81 MB 300TD with the turbo diesel engine that you have in your G. They only came with automatics in the USA. I've always thought it would be neat to have a manual trans with that car/engine. Your G must be fun!

Bruce
 
#22 ·
I replaced the brake master cylinder on my G a couple of months ago. I found one on German Ebay for $50 + shipping. A brand new *** in the box. I had ordered another one through MB but the bore was not quite deep enough (about an eighth of an inch to shallow). Everything else was perfect. I was considering drilling out the eighth of an inch needed, as the plunger is a solid piece. I wonder if that would work?

Mark
 
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