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Old 09-17-2004, 03:18 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So Confused, In need of HELP

Hello Everyone,
i dont usually post msgs, im more of a silent reader type but right now im in kind of a big dilemma.
i have orded a G55k from my dealer a while ago (about 6 months ago) and it just arrived and before the end of this week, hopefully, i will be driving my new G55k. Now comes the tricky part, ever since i ordered it ive been going crazy and not being able to control my patience (i am a university student who is getting his DREAM CAR) but lately i started thinking, MB are going to change the cars shape (IDIOTS, still cant believe they are going to do that wish i can do something to stop it [:(!]) is it really a good idea to buy my so called dream car or should i wait and see what the future has for the G-class given the fact that i already own a 02 G55 which i love. . . . . . Plz Help me out, tell me what u guys would do.
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Old 09-17-2004, 05:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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this is what i'd do...

i'd sell the 2002 and buy a 2000 G500 and put a kleeman super charger and update to the newer brakes... according to kleeman it'll have about 500hp and 475ft-lb torque ... therefore very simliar to the g55k, and be able to break even on the purchase with the proceeds from the 2002. You may want the brake upgrade too! That would be a real sleeper... until you stomp the gas...

THEN!!! Then i'd say, hey, mom and dad, i want the 100k from the G55k for a downpayment on a house instead.

That's what i'd do instead of bucking for a second dream car... or, i'd put a kleeman on that 02 G55 which would leave you with more torque and almost an extra hundred more horses... to just out power the g55k, there's a fellow here with that setup and he's funning 0-60 in less than 5 seconds... then still go back to the folks and tell them you want a down payment on a house!! ... then tell them how much money your saving them by not getting a g55k and a house... and tell them how they oughta offer me a down payment on a house!!!!

if you want a glorified ML, which will look outdated in 5 years anyway... wait for it. If you want something that'll still turn heads in 25 years... and if you think it's stupid what they're doing to it, (i would agree) then you've already answered your question?



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Old 09-18-2004, 10:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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RE: So Confused, In need of HELP

I totally disagree. The 2000 G-Class with that much power would be a rolling death trap. The G55k does not just add a supercharger, but you get much larger brakes (massive vented disc brakes all around), tweaked chassis and suspension, tuned electronics, and updated exhaust system.

Bin3maira, I have a 2004 G55 and am seriously considering upgrading to a G55k at some point. I have nothing against modern cars, and have owned several myself. Heck, I'm in the software industry so anything with a processor is automatically more appealing to my geek side...but what I've seen of the upcoming replacement for the current G-Class is quite ugly. It will most likely be a large ML with three rows of seating and a snazzy interior. Also, the AMG version probably will come a year later, if that matters to you.

I could just get a third party supercharger for my current G55, but I think it would be a waste without the other modifications AMG has done which no third party is offering for this vehicle.
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Old 09-18-2004, 02:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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oh man...

aren't i in an argumentative mood lately?....

i can already hit 130 pretty easily... by your definition it should be a deathtrap already. If you plan on driving around like such an idiot all the time that you need a system to keep your tires on the ground, well don't forget that it can't help stop you from rolling but it can't move the tree on the side of the road. If you need ETS and ESP to keep you alive you shouldn't be driving.

I mentioned the 2000 mostly in jest because a kid with a g55 in college and in the market for a g55k is not likely going to have developed enough eccentric tastes to want to go "backward" to a 2000.

Every person i know who really enjoys driving and has traction control turns it off as a part of the ritual of starting the car and putting on their seatbelt.

And by electronics upgrades on the car, assuming that engineering was done correctly, i'd put my money down that the g55k will be more dangerous than the g55 because wouldn't you be pissed if you bought a car with more power and brakes that senselessly triggers the ESP like the g500's?

Chassis and suspension upgrades... what the hell does that mean? That's "marketing" and you bought it. It's called lower stiffer spring and stiffer shocks... maybe a stiffer torsion bar. it makes a difference that's for sure, but yippie, that's a tough one to match... and lots of g55 owners hate how stiff it is to the point that they switch back to the g500 shocks. Ted Baldwins Kleeman g55 (550hp) has the g500 shocks and he's still alive.

I did mention brake upgrades didn't I?... and i think brabus offers a brake upgrade since they've made a 6 liter V12 G.

now, in the end, don't take me so seriously, i tend to poke people where they look sensitive... so if you're all irritated now... [B)] gotcha!

The g55k will be the most prestigous and fastest "stock" G ever made. If you want the prestige... or you don't want to waste time doing research and to find alternatives to see if there are either cheaper or better performing super chargers, brakes or shocks(i'm not implying 2000 g500 here). Exclusivity of the g55k is for real... i can appreciate it. Probably less than 100 of the 250 2000 g500 in this country are late models like mine... and there'll probably be more g55k's than that here in the next year. I enjoy that. [:D]
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Old 09-18-2004, 04:07 PM   #5 (permalink)
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RE: So Confused, In need of HELP

Niether the G55 or the upcoming K model makes any sense at all to me. Why on earth would you need that much power for your refrigerator[:D] The G-wagen was NEVER designed with the intent of becoming a high powered road machine. I think MB and AMG are really pushing the limits of credibility with either of those machines.

If you feel the need to drive around in a 450+hp truck I suggest buying the only one out there that was designed with that in mind from the outset, the Porsche Cayenne. For the same money you will actually get a performance machine, one where you can actually use the power and handling.

I am all for the biggest, baddest and the best out there but at some point it begins to defy logic. AMG G-wagens do just that IMO. Heck, my non-turbo Cayenne would leave the G55k for dead on the mountain roads around here. Then my old 150hp 280GE would flat smoke it off the roads. I might feel differently IF the G55k was capable in more than one area but AMG has made it pretty much useless off-road which was the trucks intended purpose to begin with. Sorry if I offend but what are they thinking[?] Oh yeah......separation of buyers from greenbacks$$$$$$[}:)]
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Old 09-18-2004, 04:33 PM   #6 (permalink)
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RE: So Confused, In need of HELP

My two cents. I have owned several vehicles that have been tweeked to within an inch of their lives. These highly tweeked motors generate big heat. They are rough on all systems. The reason I choose the G500 is because it is much less stressed than either the 55 or 55K. I am going in exactly the opposite direction - high profile 245/75/16's, maybe a little lift. I think Brent is dead on - buy the Cayenne Turbo. It was designed with 450 hp in mind. Just remember me when you blow a head gasket, or tranny on the G55K. I do not think that will be happening on any G 500. Have you ever seen an 11 year 911 Turbo? I have, they are a mess with all kinds of system failures and they were designed very well. If you look at motors that last a long time none of them have a K (or a T(urbo)) after their name. Just an observation from an old fool. JMHO. No thank you. Been there done that.
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Old 09-19-2004, 07:21 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Marc

Agree - but I must say in defense of Porsche that my 23 year-old 911 Turbo is the most reliable car that I have ever owned.

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Old 09-19-2004, 07:29 AM   #8 (permalink)
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John, I think if left stock you are probably right, they are dang tough. The problem comes when the mods are done. I learned the hard way with a 944 Turbo. After three blown headgaskets ( with a bunch of mods and track time) I sold it and bought a non-turbo Porsche, no more problems. Living at altitude now, a turbo Porsche is starting to sound more enticing again, glad to hear yours has been good. Better yet I am running Red Mountain Pass today with the Porsche club, sun is coming out, trees are turning, should be awesome!
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Old 09-19-2004, 08:14 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 09-19-2004, 10:06 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Hello Everyone,
i dont usually post msgs, im more of a silent reader type but right now im in kind of a big dilemma.
i have orded a G55k from my dealer a while ago (about 6 months ago) and it just arrived and before the end of this week, hopefully, i will be driving my new G55k. Now comes the tricky part, ever since i ordered it ive been going crazy and not being able to control my patience (i am a university student who is getting his DREAM CAR) but lately i started thinking, MB are going to change the cars shape (IDIOTS, still cant believe they are going to do that wish i can do something to stop it [:(!]) is it really a good idea to buy my so called dream car or should i wait and see what the future has for the G-class given the fact that i already own a 02 G55 which i love. . . . . . Plz Help me out, tell me what u guys would do.
And I thought the tough decisions in my life were difficult..........
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