Goodyear Eagle F1 All-Season Tires . . . any good?
Well, I have been searching for a high-performance tire that I can use all-season. Looking to get reasonable snow traction versus my current Michelin Pilot Primacy traction (awful !!!).
I have come across the Goodyear Eagle F1 All-Season, which seems to be rather new. Anybody out there have these? How do they wear, noise as they wear, etc.?
mycar=2006 C230 Sport Sedan
I read (somewhere) that the Goodyear Eagle F1 got noisy as is wears, but not sure if that is an isolated incident or if the All-season is better.
Any info or alternate recommendations for an All-Season tire would be greatly appreciated. My major concern is wear, as I only got 36K out of the Pilot Primacy's and they were really bad in the winter.
In a recent tire test I was 1 of the people tasked to do the wet test track driving and theEagle F1 A/S was one of the tires we were testing and I was quite impressed with them. The steering respnse was very good as was the wet traction .... no news on tire life or snow grip as of yet though. .... ride quality was on par with the competitive tires in the same class
As someone w/ Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 XL, front, and Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 back, I am interested in seeing how the new A/S tires work. I've driven in light snow (2") w/ them--though that's not recommended--and they did okay. I was surprised. They are fantastic on wet and all dry conditions, but I need winter tires in snow. I have a feeling that any tire--or anything--that tries to be all things for all conditions will not do very well in any of them...
I look forward to reviews after a year or two.
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Well, I finally got the Goodyear Eagle F1 All-seasons today. I had a difficult time sourcing them locally, and ended up getting the fronts from TireRack.com.
I drove about 200 miles today, mostly in wet conditions. The grip on the road seems impressive. Slowing down on exit ramps is now optional. There is a slight 'swooshing' sound that they make at highway speeds (probably the thread design).
The tires feel hard as rocks and you really feel the road (probably the carbon fiber sidewalls). Anyway, I'll give these tires a couple of thousand miles to prove themselves and them I'll post a review on tire rack.
I am praying for snow to see how the winter traction and handling goes.
Well, I finally got the Goodyear Eagle F1 All-seasons today. I had a difficult time sourcing them locally, and ended up getting the fronts from TireRack.com.
I drove about 200 miles today, mostly in wet conditions. The grip on the road seems impressive. Slowing down on exit ramps is now optional. There is a slight 'swooshing' sound that they make at highway speeds (probably the thread design).
The tires feel hard as rocks and you really feel the road (probably the carbon fiber sidewalls). Anyway, I'll give these tires a couple of thousand miles to prove themselves and them I'll post a review on tire rack.
I am praying for snow to see how the winter traction and handling goes.
Cheers.
I have these on my C280 with around 4k on them.They are intially a little stiff however the do "break in" getting more comfy.
Greetings, tire fans. I'm new to Benzworld, but not to Benzes (recently replaced my charming-to-the-end 1976 450 SEL). I see in this thread elements of something that's driving me a bit nuts regarding my recently-acquired 2003 S500 4Matic.
I am a big fan (and competent user) of what The Tire Rack calls Max Performance Summer tires, having gone through many sets on my 1987 Porsche 928 S4, which is currently on its 1.5th (the rears wear twice as fast as the fronts) set of the awesome Michelin Pilot Sport PS2s (a huge improvement over the Pilot Sport, and a nice evolution of the useless-in-the-rain MXX3s I otherwise loved for their surgical precision and absence of bad manners) on GTS-spec 17" rims.
On the Benz, I have the staggered 18" AMG wheels from the factory Sport package for the RWD cars; these came with the forgettable Dunlop SP Sport 9000s. I am now trying to decide what to put in their place.
In my neck of the woods (near Albany, NY), it gets cold enough to upset the tread rubber in the PS2 after Hallowe'en, and we get rare light snow and occasional frost from then through the first of the year (in between bursts of 50+ F high temps). January through mid-April sees occasional heavy snow, and for that I'm looking at the Nokian Hakkapeliitta RSi studless snows on the OE rims. However, the Hakkas, while good by extreme snow tire standards (compared to nerf-ball Blizzaks), are not anyone's idea of a crisp-handling tire on clear roads, so I'm loath to put them on until absolutely needed.
This raises the issue associated with this thread, and specifically with Jayhawk's comment: "any tire--or anything--that tries to be all things for all conditions will not do very well in any of them". While I agree, it's also the case that in climates like mine, conditions vary widely and often rapidly. It's also the case that, while I'm addicted to the control crispness of the Max Perf tires, this car is a long-haul tourer and needs to be quiet and smooth. It also needs to go out in any weather (the 928 gets to stay in the garage when it's nasty).
This is leading me to look seriously at what TR calls Ultra High Performance All-Season tires, both to permit me to keep the wide boots on for another two months or so each year and to get better ride, lower noise, and perhaps better dealing with heavy rain (which we have here in the summer) than the Max Perf Summer tires.
If I can't bring myself to compromise handling during May-September, I'm thinking of using a Performance Winter tire, such as the Michelin PA3 or the Nokian WRG2, to get real handling in cold, clear circumstances and some degree of snow and ice coping, and then either tiptoeing in the heavy snow or (here's where obsession creeps in) getting a third set of rims to carry the RSis for really bad times.
OK, this is already much too long, but it's only a snapshot of my decision process. Anyone have any suggestions? thanks!
Greetings, tire fans. I'm new to Benzworld, but not to Benzes (recently replaced my charming-to-the-end 1976 450 SEL). I see in this thread elements of something that's driving me a bit nuts regarding my recently-acquired 2003 S500 4Matic.
I am a big fan (and competent user) of what The Tire Rack calls Max Performance Summer tires, having gone through many sets on my 1987 Porsche 928 S4, which is currently on its 1.5th (the rears wear twice as fast as the fronts) set of the awesome Michelin Pilot Sport PS2s (a huge improvement over the Pilot Sport, and a nice evolution of the useless-in-the-rain MXX3s I otherwise loved for their surgical precision and absence of bad manners) on GTS-spec 17" rims.
On the Benz, I have the staggered 18" AMG wheels from the factory Sport package for the RWD cars; these came with the forgettable Dunlop SP Sport 9000s. I am now trying to decide what to put in their place.
In my neck of the woods (near Albany, NY), it gets cold enough to upset the tread rubber in the PS2 after Hallowe'en, and we get rare light snow and occasional frost from then through the first of the year (in between bursts of 50+ F high temps). January through mid-April sees occasional heavy snow, and for that I'm looking at the Nokian Hakkapeliitta RSi studless snows on the OE rims. However, the Hakkas, while good by extreme snow tire standards (compared to nerf-ball Blizzaks), are not anyone's idea of a crisp-handling tire on clear roads, so I'm loath to put them on until absolutely needed.
This raises the issue associated with this thread, and specifically with Jayhawk's comment: "any tire--or anything--that tries to be all things for all conditions will not do very well in any of them". While I agree, it's also the case that in climates like mine, conditions vary widely and often rapidly. It's also the case that, while I'm addicted to the control crispness of the Max Perf tires, this car is a long-haul tourer and needs to be quiet and smooth. It also needs to go out in any weather (the 928 gets to stay in the garage when it's nasty).
This is leading me to look seriously at what TR calls Ultra High Performance All-Season tires, both to permit me to keep the wide boots on for another two months or so each year and to get better ride, lower noise, and perhaps better dealing with heavy rain (which we have here in the summer) than the Max Perf Summer tires.
If I can't bring myself to compromise handling during May-September, I'm thinking of using a Performance Winter tire, such as the Michelin PA3 or the Nokian WRG2, to get real handling in cold, clear circumstances and some degree of snow and ice coping, and then either tiptoeing in the heavy snow or (here's where obsession creeps in) getting a third set of rims to carry the RSis for really bad times.
OK, this is already much too long, but it's only a snapshot of my decision process. Anyone have any suggestions? thanks!
"...obsession" is a good word. Or you could just move to Florida and enjoy the best of the best all the time...
Big snow storm on the east coat the other day, so I got a chance to see how the winter traction is on the Goodyear Eagle F1 All-Seasons . . . FWIW.
Traction on packed snow/ice is fine. The heavy/deep "mashed potato" snow was a problem. My 2006 C230 has the wider tires in the back (245's) and probably not enough weight in the back to get through the deeper/mushy stuff.
I would say the winter traction is somewhere between an OEM tire and a pure Winter tire.
BTW - the hard ride and the noise has subsided, now that the tires have a few (3K) miles on them. So, far so good.
There is a slight 'swooshing' sound that they make at highway speeds (probably the thread design).
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