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Old 06-06-2006, 07:58 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Have you tried Zaino?

Yes actually I have. I still have a tube of the Z5 polish that I use sometimes just cause it lying around. I still have a full bottle of Z1.

Like I said it was pretty good but I have tried so many others since and have come to the conclusion that Clean, Clay, Polish and Sealant (maybe a carnubu Wax if need be) is hands down the ultimate way to go AND you can argue the best ones of each until you are blue in the face but it still comes down to those steps and how prepped your paint is to begin with. Some paints need some cutting before you even start thinking about making them shine and that can go from a mild abrasive cut to an all out assault on a badly oxidised paint!
If you have a random orbital or know how to use a rotary PROPERLY you are golden no matter what you use
Again this is not counting durability, dust repellency, rubber staining and ease of use (I hear sling factor is important too if you are using a rotary).
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Old 06-06-2006, 08:04 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Another thing people need to stop comparing Sealants to Waxes. Zaino is a sealant. It will outlast #26 and S100 and any other carnubu(sp?) wax when nature assualts with heat, rain or snow. If you want a battle then test Zaino against Wolfgang Gloss Sealant, Klasse Gloss Sealant, NXT and Megiuars#20. Also you will have to pick a polish to put under each of these products because the Zaino process includes a polish step.
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Old 06-07-2006, 01:40 PM   #13 (permalink)
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i want to say thanx for the review, i have been an auto detailer for about 3 years now, i detail regularly a dodge neon SRT 4, a newer linclon town car, and a new dodge charger, both doges are black, and the customers are very picky about the shine. For most customers i use megs liquid, and it works out good, it gives an awsome shine and it relativly quick. As for my car, and my mothers car, i want to go for the absolute best, my moms 95 E 320 is black and has an awsome finish still on it. but lately when i buff the wax i get a foggy finish to it when u look at it in the correct position. Any ideas what might be doing it, should i try a diff. wax or technique????
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Old 06-07-2006, 08:13 PM   #14 (permalink)
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How often do you strip old wax off of the car? The foggy look you see may be something as simple as excessive wax buildup. You can strip the old wax relatively easy by using original formula Dawn dishwashing liquid. Be sure to follow up with a good polish to replentish the essential oils in the paint before you rewax or reseal the finish.
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Old 06-08-2006, 08:29 AM   #15 (permalink)
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The foggy finish is most likely some oxidation. If its just wax build up you'll know after you washed with dawn. After youv'e stripped the wax with dawn, try a paint cleaner. Meguiars has a good one in their deep crystal line up that works very well on dark colors. The surface must be cool to touch. This will clear up the mild oxidation you are seeing. Polish and wax/seal on top.
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Some waxes have a tendency to streak on some cars, don't know why but you wipe off the wax as best you can yet it leaves these streaks or fogginess to the wax that you don't even notice sometimes until a day later. In the Meguiars line, I found #21 to do this. In the Klasse line I find that their SG product does this. My solution was to stop using them as both companies make other products that don't do it. Funny thing is many people love these products, but I think it has more to do with the type of paint that causes this.
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Old 06-09-2006, 05:08 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I had a conversation with a car wax manufacturer once who told me that that foggy business is the result of using too much product. The cure is to wipe the car down with very cold water using a microfiber or cotton rag.

It always worked for me.

The fogging business is not an issue with Zaino products...
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Old 06-15-2006, 10:16 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Someone has to do the part hood test, preferebly a blind test where someone applies Zaino on one quarter, Megs on another quarter, Eagle Nano on the other and one more wax, see which one still shines. We need a black car preferably that hasn't been waxed in a while. I have the buffer and Meguiars products. Need someone to come and do the Zaino quarter, the Eagle Nano water and the last quarter. Then don't tell the owner which section has which wax with which and every month, for 4 months see which wax still shines and which shows signs of still being on.

Some NSX guy did one already. http://www.nsxsc.com/nsexcitement/waxtest.html

Zaino is hard to beat. Prep work with any stuff though is important. I am sold on Zaino been using it for years and still on my first bottle.
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Old 06-17-2006, 10:39 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Used Zaino on all my M5s and other BMWs = Superior Results!

Zaino can't be touched, period. Durability is absolute tops. I had a black BMW 540i stored outdoors in the Texas heat and I waxed it TWICE a year. The car looked perfect and a quick wash was all I needed. If you don't believe Zaino, you have never used it.
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Sure, the test compares Zaino to a Meguiars product I wouldn't wax my bicycle with and I agree, Gold Class doesn't last. Also the criteria used is very subjective, some waxes have higher reflectivity, some have depth, some have fillers, some don't, some have color enhancers, some don't. If reflectivity is a criteria I would put up Meguiars #16 against Zaino for reflectivity and longevity. But I still use NXT on some cars because reflectivity is not the priority, NXT's color enhancing, fillers and depth are far better than Zaino's from what I've seen. When you would use NXT depends on the condition and color of the paint. So just a typical guy that wants to just wax his car every other month in 20 minutes, isn't going to clay, buff and get crazy, I would bet that NXT would outdo Zaino hands down. Now if you get into the claying and buffing and are going for the max shine, then yes, Zaino is probably better than NXT, certainly most waxes are better than Gold Class and #16 would probably beat Zaino hands down.
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